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The groups most threatened by what Jesus was teaching were the Pharisees and other entrenched religious leadership, who were certainly "the establishment" in the religious sense, and acting as the middlemen people had to go through in matters concerning God.  The hypocrites among them were particularly targeted by Jesus for scorn and harsh rebuke in his lectures, and as the Catholic Church felt about Martin Luther, they considered him a threat to their entrenched ways rather than a constructive critic trying to show them the way to get back on the right moral path.<br/>
 
The groups most threatened by what Jesus was teaching were the Pharisees and other entrenched religious leadership, who were certainly "the establishment" in the religious sense, and acting as the middlemen people had to go through in matters concerning God.  The hypocrites among them were particularly targeted by Jesus for scorn and harsh rebuke in his lectures, and as the Catholic Church felt about Martin Luther, they considered him a threat to their entrenched ways rather than a constructive critic trying to show them the way to get back on the right moral path.<br/>
 
I realize I'm being wordy, but I wanted to explain my reasoning fully - contemporary readers see "the establishment" as being the political establishment, but the Romans were not the ones out to get Jesus.  If the word really needs to be replaced (and it doesn't seem like there's a real need here), I'd suggest "religious establishment" since that focuses the reader on the proper group who will eventually be behind Jesus' arrest and death sentence.  --[[User:ChrisY|ChrisY]] 20:19, 20 February 2010 (EST)
 
I realize I'm being wordy, but I wanted to explain my reasoning fully - contemporary readers see "the establishment" as being the political establishment, but the Romans were not the ones out to get Jesus.  If the word really needs to be replaced (and it doesn't seem like there's a real need here), I'd suggest "religious establishment" since that focuses the reader on the proper group who will eventually be behind Jesus' arrest and death sentence.  --[[User:ChrisY|ChrisY]] 20:19, 20 February 2010 (EST)
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: You make valid points.  "Religious establishment" seems more accurate in one sense, but in another it seems awkward:  there's nothing "religious" about trying to kill Jesus.  Perhaps "local authorities" or, more colloquially, "powers that be"?
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: By the way, it's interesting how this passage implies that the people provided a check and balance on the power of the leaders, which is analogous to the check and balance provided by democracy to tyranny in the modern era.  Jesus was a populist of sorts, though a very principled one.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:29, 20 February 2010 (EST)
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