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While you're right that maybe a killing in self-defense wouldn't be "murder," I don't think it would be assassination, either.  An assassination is done for the specific purpose of advancing a political agenda - a killing committed for self defense is NOT done primarily to advance a political agenda.  As for the assassination of a tyrant being not murder, I'm not sure I agree.  If somebody has walked up to Hitler and shot him through the heart, it may have been just, it may have been good, but it would still be murder.  [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 01:06, 1 March 2010 (EST)
 
While you're right that maybe a killing in self-defense wouldn't be "murder," I don't think it would be assassination, either.  An assassination is done for the specific purpose of advancing a political agenda - a killing committed for self defense is NOT done primarily to advance a political agenda.  As for the assassination of a tyrant being not murder, I'm not sure I agree.  If somebody has walked up to Hitler and shot him through the heart, it may have been just, it may have been good, but it would still be murder.  [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 01:06, 1 March 2010 (EST)
 
:Consider for instance Judges 3:15-25, in which Ehud assassinates the Moabite king, Eglon. I don't think that would be considered a "murder" in the Exodus 20:13 ("thou shalt not kill") sense. Likewise, might there not be assassinations carried out against tyrannical rulers (e.g. the deliberate targeting of [[Simon Fraser of Balnain]] by American sniper [[Timothy Murphy]] at [[Bemis Heights]] during the [[American Revolutionary War]]) that would be justifiable acts of defense of life, liberty and property, and therefore not count as murder? Clearly there is a difference between "murder" and simple "homicide" or "killing," or there would be no need for debate about the wording. [[Murder]] refers to something morally wrong, while those other terms are morally neutral. [[User:NathanLarson|NathanLarson]] 01:18, 1 March 2010 (EST)
 
:Consider for instance Judges 3:15-25, in which Ehud assassinates the Moabite king, Eglon. I don't think that would be considered a "murder" in the Exodus 20:13 ("thou shalt not kill") sense. Likewise, might there not be assassinations carried out against tyrannical rulers (e.g. the deliberate targeting of [[Simon Fraser of Balnain]] by American sniper [[Timothy Murphy]] at [[Bemis Heights]] during the [[American Revolutionary War]]) that would be justifiable acts of defense of life, liberty and property, and therefore not count as murder? Clearly there is a difference between "murder" and simple "homicide" or "killing," or there would be no need for debate about the wording. [[Murder]] refers to something morally wrong, while those other terms are morally neutral. [[User:NathanLarson|NathanLarson]] 01:18, 1 March 2010 (EST)
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::Well, I've expressed my opinion, but if you really feel strongly about it, I won't revert you again, so feel free to change it back.  We'll let the rest of the community throw their two cents in. [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 01:21, 1 March 2010 (EST)
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