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: I welcome open-minded discussions, but closed-minded discussions are often a waste of time.  So please show some signs of an open mind about this first.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:10, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
 
: I welcome open-minded discussions, but closed-minded discussions are often a waste of time.  So please show some signs of an open mind about this first.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:10, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
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::I'm all for an open-minded discussion, too, and I'm sorry if my previous comment didn't convey this. So, let's drop the historical aspect, and just say:
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::*'''Old Earth''': The surface of the Earth is changing gradually over long periods of time, and the rate of this change is roughly constant.
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::*'''Young Earth''': The surface of the Earth was mainly shaped by the Great Flood a couple of thousands years ago.
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::But I hope you can agree with the basic properties (points 1-3 above) a ''counterexample to an Old Earth'' should have?
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::[[User:FrankC|FrankC aka ComedyFan]] 07:46, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
    
=== The continued existence of fragile natural arches without having collapsed a short time period for erosion and stresses on them ===
 
=== The continued existence of fragile natural arches without having collapsed a short time period for erosion and stresses on them ===
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