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:::That's a good point. Let's find a way to make it easy for the reader to locate the source. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ^{[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]} 21:51, 16 January 2010 (EST)

:::That's a good point. Let's find a way to make it easy for the reader to locate the source. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ^{[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]} 21:51, 16 January 2010 (EST)

== Post Office ==

== '''Post Office''' ==

I deleted the template because it appeared to be a copyvio. Its been reformatted now into a block quote, which appears to have been the intent of the author. [[User:Geo.plrd|Geoff Plourde]]^{[[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Complain!]]} 22:06, 16 January 2010 (EST)

I deleted the template because it appeared to be a copyvio. Its been reformatted now into a block quote, which appears to have been the intent of the author. [[User:Geo.plrd|Geoff Plourde]]^{[[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Complain!]]} 22:06, 16 January 2010 (EST)

::ok thanks.  Note that short quotes are not copyright violations. We have fair use rights, which are pretty strong unless we somehow ruin the commercial value of a publication.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:27, 16 January 2010 (EST)

::ok thanks.  Note that short quotes are not copyright violations. We have fair use rights, which are pretty strong unless we somehow ruin the commercial value of a publication.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:27, 16 January 2010 (EST)

:::Short quotes aren't copyright violations, but uncited quotes are another matter [[User:Geo.plrd|Geoff Plourde]]^{[[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Complain!]]} 23:45, 16 January 2010 (EST)

:::Short quotes aren't copyright violations, but uncited quotes are another matter [[User:Geo.plrd|Geoff Plourde]]^{[[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Complain!]]} 23:45, 16 January 2010 (EST)

::::what do you mean--plagiarism? Plagiarism means taking false personal credit for academic gain, which is not at issue here. Nobody is gaining any academic credit for their writing at CP. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:11, 17 January 2010 (EST)

::::'''what do you mean--plagiarism? Plagiarism means taking false personal credit for academic gain, which is not at issue here. Nobody is gaining any academic credit for their writing at CP.''' [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:11, 17 January 2010 (EST)

:::::Whenever you are writing, it is intellectually dishonest to quote from a source without citing the source.  If you are copying something from another website, it is a simple matter to include a citation.  This has the added benefit of informing the reader about the existence of the source website, which might be helpful in their research.  Generally, school students are not allowed to use a wiki as a source in their work, so a wiki such as this serves mainly to provide some background and to act as a portal to other useful websites on the subject. In addition, it helps the user to see where the information came from, so they may judge the accuracy or point of view of the information accordingly.  If we want to be helpful to our readers, we should provide sources wherever possible, whether we are legally required to do so or not.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 16:03, 17 January 2010 (EST)

:::::Whenever you are writing, it is intellectually dishonest to quote from a source without citing the source.  If you are copying something from another website, it is a simple matter to include a citation.  This has the added benefit of informing the reader about the existence of the source website, which might be helpful in their research.  Generally, school students are not allowed to use a wiki as a source in their work, so a wiki such as this serves mainly to provide some background and to act as a portal to other useful websites on the subject. In addition, it helps the user to see where the information came from, so they may judge the accuracy or point of view of the information accordingly.  If we want to be helpful to our readers, we should provide sources wherever possible, whether we are legally required to do so or not.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 16:03, 17 January 2010 (EST)

::::::Two points: 1) it is not intellectually dishonest unless you claim personal academic credit. Look at most textbooks, for example and note that footnotes and other credits to sources are rare. 2) We do a good job in providing bibliographies and footnotes. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:39, 17 January 2010 (EST)

::::::'''Two points: 1) it is not intellectually dishonest unless you claim personal academic credit. Look at most textbooks, for example and note that footnotes and other credits to sources are rare. 2) We do a good job in providing bibliographies and footnotes.''' [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:39, 17 January 2010 (EST)

==Thanks for quick action==

==Thanks for quick action==