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: The rest mass is the same. I think Lorentz discovered what he called the longitudinal and transverse mass in around 1900. It was experimentally testing in around 1902. Einstein uses similar terminology in his 1905 paper. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 02:32, 25 August 2010 (EDT)
 
: The rest mass is the same. I think Lorentz discovered what he called the longitudinal and transverse mass in around 1900. It was experimentally testing in around 1902. Einstein uses similar terminology in his 1905 paper. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 02:32, 25 August 2010 (EDT)
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== counter example 12 ==
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counter example 12, referring to the W13 magnetar does have an explanation that, while not proven, or provable, is at least consistent with relativity.  It is explained here http://www.astronomynow.com/news/n1008/20magnetar/ one possible way it could have formed. [[User:Vikten|Vikten]] 16:38, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
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