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:::Well, Irving, who is the first one to promote the myth, and who I'd imagine is the reason that most people think that people in Columbus's time thought the earth was flat, clearly wasn't an evolutionist.  I don't think you can really argue that either Draper or White were more influential in promoting the myth than Irving was.  It's true that Irving uses the myth to make the Spanish scholars look bad, but that's probably more anti-Catholic bias.  He does point out that Columbus was a deeply religious man, and at the time he wrote the book, there was the definate prejudice in the United States of "See how evil and intolerant the Catholics are and look at all the nasty stuff the Inquisition did to Protestants, scientists, and other people who challenged Catholic religious dogma."--[[User:Epicurius|Epicurius]] 15:41, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:::Well, Irving, who is the first one to promote the myth, and who I'd imagine is the reason that most people think that people in Columbus's time thought the earth was flat, clearly wasn't an evolutionist.  I don't think you can really argue that either Draper or White were more influential in promoting the myth than Irving was.  It's true that Irving uses the myth to make the Spanish scholars look bad, but that's probably more anti-Catholic bias.  He does point out that Columbus was a deeply religious man, and at the time he wrote the book, there was the definate prejudice in the United States of "See how evil and intolerant the Catholics are and look at all the nasty stuff the Inquisition did to Protestants, scientists, and other people who challenged Catholic religious dogma."--[[User:Epicurius|Epicurius]] 15:41, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
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I predict it's going to be very hard to find anything on the web, with an Evolution supporter accusing Christian opponents of evolution of being Flat-earthers. Not unless we want to count blogs. NCSE is circumspect:
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*Eugenie Scott "presents a continuum with creationism at one end and evolution at the other. The strictest creationists are the Flat Earthers.... The International Flat Earth Society has only about 200 members (Schadewald, 1980) and is insignificant in the antievolution movement." [http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/1593_the_creationevolution_continu_12_7_2000.asp]
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Could this be verbal hype used more in conversation than in serious discussion? Like saying "Bush is an idiot", which is obviously a figure of speech. He'd have to have at least an IQ of 100 just to become a governor (!), and if he actually earned his graduate degrees possibly as high as 120 or 130. See my definition of [[idiot]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 15:58, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
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