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| | :::#(John 4:52) Which answer would you give to a kid in Sunday School who asks: ''How did the servants knew that it was 1 o'clock?'' | | :::#(John 4:52) Which answer would you give to a kid in Sunday School who asks: ''How did the servants knew that it was 1 o'clock?'' |
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| − | ::::People could tell time 2000 years ago. In fact, people could tell time 5000 years ago. A sundial is one obvious way; there may have been others too.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:33, 17 April 2011 (EDT) | + | :::::People could tell time 2000 years ago. In fact, people could tell time 5000 years ago. A sundial is one obvious way; there may have been others too.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:33, 17 April 2011 (EDT) |
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| | :::#(John 4:46-54) You wrote: ''The instantaneous healing is central to the purpose of the event.'' and ''the point of the story is that it happened at the same moment''. How so? Why had the healing to be spontaneous, when the creation of the world took six days? | | :::#(John 4:46-54) You wrote: ''The instantaneous healing is central to the purpose of the event.'' and ''the point of the story is that it happened at the same moment''. How so? Why had the healing to be spontaneous, when the creation of the world took six days? |
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| − | ::::No specific element of the creation took six days. There was no delay between "let there be light," and the appearance of light, for example.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:33, 17 April 2011 (EDT) | + | :::::No specific element of the creation took six days. There was no delay between "let there be light," and the appearance of light, for example.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:33, 17 April 2011 (EDT) |
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| | :::#(Matthew 27:51) At [[Bible Translation Issues]], no. 17, you wrote: ''The word "behold" appears frequently in the KJV but lacks a modern equivalent. Is there a strategy for this dealing with this concept? Possibilities include "rejoice", "observe", "listen", "note that", and ignoring it altogether (which modern versions often do). '' Here, you omit the nuance ''at the moment'' which you used in Matthew 27:51. I checked a couple of dictionaries and failed to find ''at the moment'' as a translation of ἰδού. Where did you find it? | | :::#(Matthew 27:51) At [[Bible Translation Issues]], no. 17, you wrote: ''The word "behold" appears frequently in the KJV but lacks a modern equivalent. Is there a strategy for this dealing with this concept? Possibilities include "rejoice", "observe", "listen", "note that", and ignoring it altogether (which modern versions often do). '' Here, you omit the nuance ''at the moment'' which you used in Matthew 27:51. I checked a couple of dictionaries and failed to find ''at the moment'' as a translation of ἰδού. Where did you find it? |
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| − | ::::As with any Greek word lacking an English equivalent, the translation of ἰδού requires examining the context in which it was used in order to translate it. Search on: ἰδού "at that moment" , and you'll see there are 20,000 references on the internet.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:33, 17 April 2011 (EDT) | + | :::::As with any Greek word lacking an English equivalent, the translation of ἰδού requires examining the context in which it was used in order to translate it. Search on: ἰδού "at that moment" , and you'll see there are 20,000 references on the internet.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:33, 17 April 2011 (EDT) |
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| | :::#(Matthew 27:51) The ''New International Version'' starts the verse with ''At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn..'', but this ''at that moment'' seems to be a translation of the leading καὶ (in fact of the string of καὶ-καὶ-καὶ), while ἰδού is dropped from the sentence altogether - as you observed rightly in [[Bible Translation Issues]]. | | :::#(Matthew 27:51) The ''New International Version'' starts the verse with ''At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn..'', but this ''at that moment'' seems to be a translation of the leading καὶ (in fact of the string of καὶ-καὶ-καὶ), while ἰδού is dropped from the sentence altogether - as you observed rightly in [[Bible Translation Issues]]. |
| | :::#Isn't it a little bit unsettling that this crucial ''nuance'' of ἰδού is used in CBP's translation for the first and only time in Matthew 27:51, a verse which is used later on in [[Counterexamples to Relativity]]? | | :::#Isn't it a little bit unsettling that this crucial ''nuance'' of ἰδού is used in CBP's translation for the first and only time in Matthew 27:51, a verse which is used later on in [[Counterexamples to Relativity]]? |
| | :::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:49, 17 April 2011 (EDT) | | :::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:49, 17 April 2011 (EDT) |