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Line 1: − − − == Templates == − − * Document. − * Explain what it is. − ''Please leave a message at the tone.....'' − --<big>[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]</big><sub>/Admin</sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 19:37, 28 September 2010 (EDT) − − == Writing Plan == − − I wish to make positive contributions to the project by improving the science and technology articles in any way possible; I am very interested in science, though I am hardly an expert. − − (Was this sufficient? Is more required?) --[[User:JohnLee|JohnLee]] 22:18, 12 October 2010 (EDT) − − #I didn't say you had to stop writing till you submitted a plane. − #Your plan is vague, please be more specific. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:59, 29 November 2010 (EST) − − == Compass and Straightedge == − − What is going on? You seem to be engaging in "editing by flamethrower"! The recent deletion of the [[Compass and straightedge]] article was totally wrong, and destroyed an important part of middle-school mathematics. I feel responsible for this, because I had brought this to your attention just two days before. Here is the relevant clip from my email: − ::But have you looked at the "compass and straightedge" article? I finally got around to reading the whole thing. It reeks of parody! See for yourself. Ask yourself whether ancient Greek sailors used compasses to guide their navigation, drawing circles with them. Or whether geometric figures like triangles were inspired by the shape of an oar. − (By the way, I didn't consider it the least bit funny. In another context, maybe, but this was plain vandalism.) − − "Reeks of parody" seems to have overstated the case. My intention was to have you fix those few sentences, not delete the entire article! Many people had contributed to that article before the parody, and the article is important. All those people's work has now been destroyed. − − Please restore the article if Andy hasn't done so already, and take out the parody. As I said in my email, there are a few other minor improvements that need to be made. I will do them. − − On another matter, my recent edits to [[algebra]] were an attempt to lay to rest the conflict between you and me over writing math articles at the right educational level. I believe that what I wrote was the level that you have been looking for. Please tell me if you find it satisfactory. And feel free to take it to the next level, which would be solving quadratics. (There's already a page about the [[quadratic formula]], but that material should be in the algebra article also.) I really want to be able to collaborate with you, in a harmonious atmosphere, on math articles. But I can't do it if you still think I'm going at this all wrong. − − [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 21:51, 8 October 2010 (EDT) − − :I wish you would take direction from me. I'm a senior editor here, and you are a new writer. Please help, or be elsewhere. I'd also like to see your [[Conservapedia:Writing plan]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 16:30, 10 October 2010 (EDT) − − == Article re Atheist Meeting == − − Ed, I know I've only been around now and again - the family and work come first! - but I have the real inside scoop on an atheist meeting in the UK. Some really big names, some really shocking talks. − − I'd like your advice on how best to report it. A contribution on a talk page seems like a waste of really good material but I don't know if it justifies a whole new encyclopedia entry. − − I'd also appreciate some guidance on the style and content. Can I run the story past you somewhere less public and you can give me feedback? − − Thanks [[User:Rafael|Rafael]] − − :I check my email every week. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 10:27, 13 November 2010 (EST) − − == Math Plans, from SamHB == − − Ed: − − Please see the bottom of my [[User:SamHB|user page]] for a summary of what I'd like do, in collaboration with you. I'm also going to call [[User:JamesWilson]]'s attention to this. − − I've picked out 4 things that I think are interesting and fruitful to work on. I believe you have also been interested, to some extent, in each of these. I solicit your advice on how to proceed—which ones you would like me to work on, which one you want to work on yourself, and any advice you might have, or criticism of my past writing. − − I'm quite serious about wanting comments from you on my past writing. You have, on many occasions, made your general philosophy known—making things understandable to the audience, as opposed to showing off the author's own expertise. And I am completely in agreement with it, as far as I know. But all previous attempts to get you to comment on my writing have been unsuccessful. In particular, there was quite a bit of discussion of the [[Algebra]] page, including my sending you, by email, a proposed draft of the article, along the lines that you had requested some time earlier in [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?=Talk:Axiom_of_Choice&diff=579736&oldid=578639 this] comment. That email, at 2:15PM, Oct 3, 2010, also contained the following request: − ::But, before doing that [rewriting the algebra page, which was attached], I'd like to know whether you think I'm on the right track. Please let me know. Better yet, edit it [my attachment] on top of the existing page. − I later (after getting unblocked) made the edit myself, and you have neither reverted it nor commented on it. I'm fairly sure that you find it satisfactory, but a word from you would be most helpful. − − There aren't many math contributors around these days. With the possible exception of James Wilson, you and I seem to be the only prolific and knowledgeable editors on this topic. But we have a combined math SAT score or 1530, so we really ought to be able to do a good job. Please work with me. − − Here are the four articles that I have picked out; I have also summarized them on my own talk page. − − *[[Compass and straightedge]]—This needs more work. You say that you never took plane geometry, but went straight into analytic geometry. My suggestion is that ''you'' work on this, for just that reason. You could give the article a fresh perspective. And Andy has often said something like (can't find an exact reference just now) "It's more educational to write a book than to read a book." Now I took plane geometry in 10th grade or whatever, and, because I was a math major in college, I could step in for the impossibility proofs. But I'd like your perspective on how to start the article. − − *Elementary [[Algebra]]—This was the subject of the mail alluded to above. What do you think of the changes that I made? Is the next step to talk about quadratic equations? Or perhaps polynomial factoring? Or something else? Would you like me to do it, or do you want to work on this yourself? − − *Peano axioms—There is at present no article on this subject. I think it would be ''very'' interesting and fascinating for our readers. And it can be done in an accessible way. It's really not esoteric. Anyone old enough to appreciate what "theorems" are, and that you "prove" them (as opposed to taking your teacher's word for them), can appreciate this. People probably cross this threshold around 9th grade or so, usually in the context of elementary plane geometry. (I can't believe that you never took plane geometry! But I'm sure you developed an appreciation of proofs in whatever classes you were taking at the time.) Now most people have been doing ordinary arithmetic for a long time before learning about theorems, and they think they know that addition is commutative. So you go to these people and ask "So how do you know that addition is commutative? Can you give me a proof? Aha! '''That''' is what the Peano axioms are about. − − *[[Center]]—This has been a disaster for a long time. I really don't know how to write the "headline" sentence for this; that is, what's the first thing you say about what the "center" of a geometrical shape is? Do you have any ideas? I'd really like to see your take on this article; I really don't know how to begin. − − I await your reply and guidance. − − [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 22:14, 28 November 2010 (EST) − − :Okay, I fibbed. I did take some plane geometry (as part of other courses). I meant that I never took a '''class''' called [[Plane geometry]]. I've proved theorems in it. − − :I'd like you to do all the writing. I look over your shoulder and criticize, if you really want feedback. Please start with the most elementary stuff, and work your way up from there. − − :[[High school algebra]] should come first, then the concept of a [[Theorem]] and how to [[proof|prove]] it. Let's take a detour and write all about symbolic logic (at least the [[Propositional calculus]]) before getting into the Peano axioms. − − :Once we've finished all of high school math, then you (as a math major) may proceed to college-level topics. We need to become a reliable resource for 90% of the readers who consult an encyclopedia for mathematics, before we start catering to those seeking more esoteric information, if you ask me. (You can always work with Roger Schlafly, if you can't wait.) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:56, 29 November 2010 (EST) − − == Another Ed == − − Funny to see another Ed with an interest in computers! I've created Category:Computer_tips to organize a number of your articles, and completed the set of articles on CSS's text-decoration which you began with a discussion of underline. Hope you'll add some more tidbits to this category! --[[User:EdS|EdS]] 18:52, 19 December 2010 (EST) − − :The point is not to follow the pattern I started, blindly. After a number of tiny standalone articles have been created, we ought to think about consolidating them. − − :We aim not at completeness, but ease of access. The standard is, "How is easy is it to find the information when you need it in a hurry?" (Note that [[blinking text]] is not an important feature for most web designers, as it '''annoys''' users.) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 21:01, 19 December 2010 (EST) − − ::"How easy is it to find the information when you need it in a hurry?" sounds more like a standard for a CSS reference sheet than an encyclopedia... is there some page here with such standards codified? I confess that the existence of the page "move mysql column" left me somewhat mystified. --[[User:EdS|EdS]] 21:08, 19 December 2010 (EST) − − :::I see that you've taken issue with some of my articles on conservative figures, so I think I'll start writing computer articles again. Lest I cause you any more trouble so you have to move my articles around, could you give me some guideline for what makes a computer-related article appropriate for mainspace? --[[User:EdS|EdS]] 16:35, 20 December 2010 (EST) − − == Email == − − Hi Mr. Poor, − − I sent you an email through the Email user feature on the left, just as a note. I don't know how often everyone checks their emails through here and I wanted to mention it you on your talk page to be sure. If you have any questions my email (tyler.zoran@gmail.com) is always available. Thank you! [[User:Tzoran|Tyler Zoran]] <sup>[[User talk:Tzoran|Talk]]</sup> 15:03, 29 December 2010 (EST)
Removing last year's stuff -- see archive if you're that interested
[[Image:Ed poor grinning.jpg|right|thumb|114px|Ed Poor on campus]]
[[Image:Ed poor grinning.jpg|right|thumb|114px|Ed Poor on campus]]
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== Writing Plan ==
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