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This may be a long shot but could the Simpsons fit under the Debatable category? Although it does occasionally send liberal messages, it embraces very conservative family values. I'm just not sure whether or not its liberal messages exclude it entirely from being included here. --[[User:JimMac|JimMac]] 09:31, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
 
This may be a long shot but could the Simpsons fit under the Debatable category? Although it does occasionally send liberal messages, it embraces very conservative family values. I'm just not sure whether or not its liberal messages exclude it entirely from being included here. --[[User:JimMac|JimMac]] 09:31, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
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: Personally, I don't find any value -- conservative or otherwise -- in the ''Simpsons''.  I think it presents [[Hollywood]]'s negative caricature of the family, as several other sitcoms have.  But I welcome comments by others about this show, and thanks for the suggestion.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:23, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
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: Personally, I don't any value -- conservative or otherwise -- in the ''Simpsons''.  I think it presents [[Hollywood]]'s negative caricature of the family, as several other sitcoms have.  But I welcome comments by others about this show, and thanks for the suggestion.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:23, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
 
::I would agree - showing a dysfunctional family is hardly conservative. It would be like saying the abysmal "Married with children" is conservative. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 11:21, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
 
::I would agree - showing a dysfunctional family is hardly conservative. It would be like saying the abysmal "Married with children" is conservative. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 11:21, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
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:::I think it definitely has conservative elements. The Simpson family sticks together through thick and thin and always supports each other in the end. I point to an episode where son Bart is caught shoplifting; mother Marge is understandably distraught at his behavior, but by the end of the episode Bart learns his lesson and Marge forgives him. Conservative values. [[User:KeithLowe|KeithLowe]] 13:06, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
      
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I'm thinking about shows from my youth, such as CHiPs  - which portrays law enforcement in a positive light, while wholesome lead characters and little violence, and MacGuyver, again a show with little violence and a character using Yankee ingenuity to extract himself from a tight situation. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 11:21, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
 
I'm thinking about shows from my youth, such as CHiPs  - which portrays law enforcement in a positive light, while wholesome lead characters and little violence, and MacGuyver, again a show with little violence and a character using Yankee ingenuity to extract himself from a tight situation. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 11:21, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
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Not sure it's conservative...the main character, Alex Keaton, played by Michael J. Fox, was born in Africa during a Peace Corps engagement and it's never made clear that he is a naturalized citizen. Also, as a desperate ratings ploy, the 4th episode of the show revolved around Alex Keaton engaging in pre-marital sex and suffering no negative consequences. The middle daughter, Mallory, is shown to be extremely materialistic but it is not portrayed very negatively. The parents, despite what the description says, are successful and live in a nice-sized house despite their liberal tendencies. I think this show should be put in the "maybe" category. [[User:KeithLowe|KeithLowe]] 12:58, 26 May 2011 (EDT)
 
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