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It doesn't matter if you look down on Mic's / Hooligans / Irishmen. They aren't going to change their name. It doesn't matter if you say Jew nicely or if you say it with a derogatory tone: a Jew is still proud to be a Jew.  Thusly, those of us who remember Oriental, Chinaman, et. al. aren't going to change our way of speach because to do so would be an insult to our fathers and their fathers before them. Is it quite alright with you if traditionalists keep on doing what they have always done? Or do you feel the need to impose your perceptions and connotations upon everyone around you?[[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 13:52, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
 
It doesn't matter if you look down on Mic's / Hooligans / Irishmen. They aren't going to change their name. It doesn't matter if you say Jew nicely or if you say it with a derogatory tone: a Jew is still proud to be a Jew.  Thusly, those of us who remember Oriental, Chinaman, et. al. aren't going to change our way of speach because to do so would be an insult to our fathers and their fathers before them. Is it quite alright with you if traditionalists keep on doing what they have always done? Or do you feel the need to impose your perceptions and connotations upon everyone around you?[[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 13:52, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
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:"Here in the conservative world, people are free to think what they want to think."
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:You seem to have a pretty poor understanding of the way language and cognitive science work.  Language constantly evolves, and yes, that means words that were once considered inoffensive become offensive and vice versa.  Words are defined by how they are used, they are not used by how they are defined.  If you don't believe me, check out how words get into the dictionary.  Read ''The Professor and the Madman''. 
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:Um, I just got threatened with a ban for not agreeing to a conclusion that is argued using quite evidently flawed math.  We, in fact, aren't free to think here, we're free to conform or be punished.  Just clearing that up for you, since you didn't seem to realize.--[[User:RexMundane|RexMundane]] 14:00, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
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:And as any good politician or speechwriter will tell you, words mean things.  The other ethicity terms are adjectives used to describe people.  China is a noun... it's a thing.  It is inherently derogatory.  Oriental is ethnocentric in the extreme, as is Occidental.  Normal people are here, those other people are from the East (Note, this is also flatearthcentric).
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:And you missed a step in the progression of what African Americans are called.
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:You can refer to people however you like.  That's your right, I'm not going to deny it.  What I'm wondering is if Conservapedia wants to be known as ethnocentric and derogatory.  Is that what conservapedia wants? [[User:Myk|Myk]] 14:04, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
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::"Here in the conservative world, people are free to think what they want to think."
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::Um, I just got threatened with a ban for not agreeing to a conclusion that is argued using quite evidently flawed math.  We, in fact, aren't free to think here, we're free to conform or be punished.  Just clearing that up for you, since you didn't seem to realize.--[[User:RexMundane|RexMundane]] 14:00, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
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