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Talk:Essay: Counseling psychology and Dumbo's feather (view source)
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::::It's unfortunate, true...but I suspect that if you looked at the numbers, AA will have a higher success rate than any purely secular psychotherapy-based group. It would be interesting to have a three-tier comparison: purely secular psychotherapy, groups like AA which make limited use of the principles you've described here, and Christian counseling programs. --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 11:50, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
::::It's unfortunate, true...but I suspect that if you looked at the numbers, AA will have a higher success rate than any purely secular psychotherapy-based group. It would be interesting to have a three-tier comparison: purely secular psychotherapy, groups like AA which make limited use of the principles you've described here, and Christian counseling programs. --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 11:50, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::I didn't know relying on psychotherapy was so unBiblical. After reading this "essay" I'm convinced my autistic daughter needs better help so she doesn't scream and thrash in public when people get too close to her, touch her, or make eye contact while speaking to her. Would you recommend a protestant minister over our family priest? Maybe my wife hasn't been doing a good enough job as a layman after 8 years of homeschooling and should try harder. I look forward to your sage insights. [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 13:08, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::I didn't know relying on psychotherapy was so unBiblical. After reading this "essay" I'm convinced my autistic daughter needs better help so she doesn't scream and thrash in public when people get too close to her, touch her, or make eye contact while speaking to her. Would you recommend a protestant minister over our family priest? Maybe my wife hasn't been doing a good enough job as a layman after 8 years of homeschooling and should try harder. I look forward to your sage insights. [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 13:08, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::I have a family member who has benefited from AA: the key there (apparently) is the non-judgmentalism. This allows the person to stop judging themselves, thus bottling up and hiding their sins...no healing (nor, indeed, forgiveness) can occur unless and until ''all things'' are out in the "open", (fifth step), only then can healing begin.
::::::It is a process not an event and if it occurs through a group setting or one-on-one counseling, who cares...there is a time when it is better to ''listen'' without finger pointing and telling the person that they are sinners; they know that already and are shamed by it. Take away the shame and then they are able to actually deal with their core issues. [[User:AsherL|AsherL]] 14:02, 22 July 2011 (EDT)