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::::::I have a family member who has benefited from AA: the key there (apparently) is the non-judgmentalism. This allows the person to stop judging themselves, thus bottling up and hiding their sins...no healing (nor, indeed, forgiveness) can occur unless and until ''all things'' are out in the "open", (fifth step), only then can healing begin.  
 
::::::I have a family member who has benefited from AA: the key there (apparently) is the non-judgmentalism. This allows the person to stop judging themselves, thus bottling up and hiding their sins...no healing (nor, indeed, forgiveness) can occur unless and until ''all things'' are out in the "open", (fifth step), only then can healing begin.  
 
::::::It is a process not an event and if it occurs through a group setting or one-on-one counseling, who cares...there is a time when it is better to ''listen'' without finger pointing and telling the person that they are sinners; they know that already and are shamed by it. Take away the shame and then they are able to actually deal with their core issues. [[User:AsherL|AsherL]] 14:02, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
 
::::::It is a process not an event and if it occurs through a group setting or one-on-one counseling, who cares...there is a time when it is better to ''listen'' without finger pointing and telling the person that they are sinners; they know that already and are shamed by it. Take away the shame and then they are able to actually deal with their core issues. [[User:AsherL|AsherL]] 14:02, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
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Wouldn't the mouse convincing Dumbo that he doesn't need the feather to fly be an example of "counseling psychology"?--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 15:59, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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