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:::So there is no disagreement about whether the term should be translated and included.  It should be.  But to translate it as the equivalent of merely an underline or exclamation point is little better than omitting it entirely.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:50, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
 
:::So there is no disagreement about whether the term should be translated and included.  It should be.  But to translate it as the equivalent of merely an underline or exclamation point is little better than omitting it entirely.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:50, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
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== At that moment, again... ==
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Over the last four months I have asked numerous times for a justification of translating ''ἰδού'' as ''at that moment''. To attempts to explain the translation were made:
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*A count of google hits: [[Talk:John_1-7_(Translated)#Issue with translation of John 4:53|Here]], I showed how this approach fails. In great detail. Twice.
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*An attempt which based on the assumption that the [[New American Standard Bible]] would use archaic phrases - which it explicitly does not ([[User talk:Aschlafly#New namespace for the CBP|see here]].)
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So both ''justifications'' fall flat. Until there is any meaningful, scholarly explanation, I changed the text to a version which may sound a little bit archaic, but is at least correct. Before reverting this entry, I'd like to see some explications which show more than wishful thinking but knowledge of the subject at hand.
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:02, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
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