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: Indeed, when a police officer is working, they are wearing a uniform.  However, while wearing that uniform they are expected to have a certain code of conduct above and beyond what the average citizen has.  If that is the case and that sysops will not get into arguments with users or engage in questionable reverts - then by all means keep the sysop bit in the signature.  However, as soon as you get into a debate with a user and start showing your 'badge' around - it has a chilling effect and discourse is restricted because people are afraid of offending you for fear of getting banned.
 
: Indeed, when a police officer is working, they are wearing a uniform.  However, while wearing that uniform they are expected to have a certain code of conduct above and beyond what the average citizen has.  If that is the case and that sysops will not get into arguments with users or engage in questionable reverts - then by all means keep the sysop bit in the signature.  However, as soon as you get into a debate with a user and start showing your 'badge' around - it has a chilling effect and discourse is restricted because people are afraid of offending you for fear of getting banned.
 
: I have no problem at all if sysops have that in their signatures.  However, I would be most disconcerted if that means that sysops can behave in ways to a user where if the user behaved in the same way to the sysop, they would get banned[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sysop%2FAdmin_Abuse&diff=86432&oldid=86373].  It is important for those people who show the badge to set the highest possible standards for the rest of us to follow.  If the standards that the sysop follow are lower than the rest of the users, there will be issues - quite similar to what those who created conservapeida perceive in wikipedia.  --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 20:10, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
 
: I have no problem at all if sysops have that in their signatures.  However, I would be most disconcerted if that means that sysops can behave in ways to a user where if the user behaved in the same way to the sysop, they would get banned[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sysop%2FAdmin_Abuse&diff=86432&oldid=86373].  It is important for those people who show the badge to set the highest possible standards for the rest of us to follow.  If the standards that the sysop follow are lower than the rest of the users, there will be issues - quite similar to what those who created conservapeida perceive in wikipedia.  --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 20:10, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
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*Well, the shoe fits both sides, Mtur.  I would submit that anyone using personal insults to other users, Sysop or not, they should be blocked.  Anyone defying instruction from a Sysop or Bureaucrat should likewise expect disciplinary action.  All sites have cops. Things have a way of working out.  Some Sysop's have blocked users, and other Sysop's have restored them, some more than once, lol. --~ [[User:TK|Sysop-TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:44, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
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