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Force, authority and persuasion
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*Well, the shoe fits both sides, Mtur.  I would submit that anyone using personal insults to other users, Sysop or not, they should be blocked.  Anyone defying instruction from a Sysop or Bureaucrat should likewise expect disciplinary action.  All sites have cops. Things have a way of working out.  Some Sysop's have blocked users, and other Sysop's have restored them, some more than once, lol. --~ [[User:TK|Sysop-TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:44, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
 
*Well, the shoe fits both sides, Mtur.  I would submit that anyone using personal insults to other users, Sysop or not, they should be blocked.  Anyone defying instruction from a Sysop or Bureaucrat should likewise expect disciplinary action.  All sites have cops. Things have a way of working out.  Some Sysop's have blocked users, and other Sysop's have restored them, some more than once, lol. --~ [[User:TK|Sysop-TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:44, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
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At Wikipedia, during my years as an admin, I usually did not identify myself as having sysop rights when simply discussing articles and such. I only "brandished the badge" when giving a warning.
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A related example, I am '''still''' on Wikipedia's mediation committee, and occasionally I will say ''as a member of the mediation committee I recommend (blah, blah, blah)'' because contributors are more inclined to listen to me that way.
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However, there's an online custom that you don't "op" yourself on IRC unless you are currently in the process of warning or blocking, etc. Or unless the channel is under frequent attack. If I sign as Sysop Eddie all the time, I wonder if I might alienate some of the "kids" here.
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Moreover, I often find that making mild suggestions works better with some people: "a word to the wise is sufficient". Not that I'm telling other sysops to do it my way. We need some men around here who take their tough pills daily! :-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 08:17, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
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