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How is the original meaning of the term, one that predates the conservative meaning by centuries a "redefinition"? [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 15:59, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
 
How is the original meaning of the term, one that predates the conservative meaning by centuries a "redefinition"? [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 15:59, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
 
:The conservative meaning is much more broad, while the liberal redefinition specifically omits the defensive purpose.  --[[User:JefferyA|JefferyA]] 20:42, 7 September 2011 (EDT)
 
:The conservative meaning is much more broad, while the liberal redefinition specifically omits the defensive purpose.  --[[User:JefferyA|JefferyA]] 20:42, 7 September 2011 (EDT)
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::You do understand that "REdefining" implies CHANGING an original definition, right? And you are aware that "walls"--and the word we use to talk about them--existed long before the United States or Mexico, right? So unless you have a time machine, this is a non-starter. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 20:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)
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