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:::But the "General Theory of Evolution" is the one developed by Darwin in the 1840s and it was replaced by the Modern Synthesis DECADES ago. Why argue against a theory that evolutionists abandoned in the 1930s? Tell them it doesn't answer the 15 questions and they're just going to shrug and say "Yeah, we know. So what?" As for chemical evolution, abiogenesis is only ONE way in which the term is used; it's also used to describe the cascade of elements formed by fusion inside stars, and quite clearly THAT isn't part of evolutionary theory either. By using non-standard definitions of what evolutionary theory is you're just opening yourself up to accusations of making strawman arguments. Abiogenesis isn't part of the theory of evolution and we shouldn't be claiming that it is. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 23:52, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

:::But the "General Theory of Evolution" is the one developed by Darwin in the 1840s and it was replaced by the Modern Synthesis DECADES ago. Why argue against a theory that evolutionists abandoned in the 1930s? Tell them it doesn't answer the 15 questions and they're just going to shrug and say "Yeah, we know. So what?" As for chemical evolution, abiogenesis is only ONE way in which the term is used; it's also used to describe the cascade of elements formed by fusion inside stars, and quite clearly THAT isn't part of evolutionary theory either. By using non-standard definitions of what evolutionary theory is you're just opening yourself up to accusations of making strawman arguments. Abiogenesis isn't part of the theory of evolution and we shouldn't be claiming that it is. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 23:52, 16 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::Two word for you: "chemical evolution".  Those two words are the piano on the back of your evolutionary paradigm. As far as so called "stellar evolution" that is part of the evolutionary paradigm/philosophy too. The paradigm is bankrupt though. As far as evolutionist accusations, $1.50 and an evolutionists accusation will get you a cup of coffee. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 03:17, 17 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::Two word for you: "chemical evolution".  Those two words are the piano on the back of your evolutionary paradigm. As far as so called "stellar evolution" that is part of the evolutionary paradigm/philosophy too. The paradigm is bankrupt though. As far as evolutionist accusations, $1.50 and an evolutionists accusation will get you a cup of coffee. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 03:17, 17 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::Stellar evolution refers to the progress of stars through the Main Sequence, NOT the element cascade in their cores. Once again you are trying to use a non-standard definition, and once again you are giving evolutionists a perfect opportunity to dismiss us by saying we don't know what we're talking about. We are trying to PERSUADE people here, and how persuaded are people going to be when they see a FALLACIOUS argument here, use it against an evolutionist then get shown that actually evolutionists aren't saying anything like that? Not very, I would say. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 09:25, 17 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::Stellar evolution refers to the progress of stars through the Main Sequence, NOT the element cascade in their cores. Once again you are trying to use a non-standard definition, and once again you are giving evolutionists a perfect opportunity to dismiss us by saying we don't know what we're talking about. We are trying to PERSUADE people here, and how persuaded are people going to be when they see a FALLACIOUS argument here, use it against an evolutionist then get shown that actually evolutionists aren't saying anything like that? Not very, I would say. As for stellar evolution being part of the "evolutionary paradigm," well, what IS the evolutionary paradigm and why are you determined to concentrate on it rather that what's actually being taught in schools, which is the THEORY of evolution and has nothing to do with stars or the origin of life? --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 09:25, 17 September 2011 (EDT)