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Talk:Conservative of the Year 2011 (view source)
Revision as of 04:57, December 31, 2011
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::::::::No, democracy has failed in Iraq because we unwisely removed the one regime that was capable of keeping a lid on their tribalism and sectarian stupidity. Saddam was terrible for the Iraqi people but just fine for us. Now we've basically handed all Iraq's resources to the pro-Iranian Shia and the communist Kurdish rebels, while throwing away the chance to stabilise Afghanistan by putting enough resources in early enough to make a difference. No other result could have been expected, which is why many in the military and most of our allies opposed the war. --[[User:ArtWellesley|ArtWellesley]] 19:15, 30 December 2011 (EST)
::::::::No, democracy has failed in Iraq because we unwisely removed the one regime that was capable of keeping a lid on their tribalism and sectarian stupidity. Saddam was terrible for the Iraqi people but just fine for us. Now we've basically handed all Iraq's resources to the pro-Iranian Shia and the communist Kurdish rebels, while throwing away the chance to stabilise Afghanistan by putting enough resources in early enough to make a difference. No other result could have been expected, which is why many in the military and most of our allies opposed the war. --[[User:ArtWellesley|ArtWellesley]] 19:15, 30 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::I have no beef with taking Paul off the list though. GFitz is right; he's not a real conservative. I just don't think his Middle Eastern policy has anything to do with that. --[[User:ArtWellesley|ArtWellesley]] 19:17, 30 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::I have no beef with taking Paul off the list though. GFitz is right; he's not a real conservative. I just don't think his Middle Eastern policy has anything to do with that. --[[User:ArtWellesley|ArtWellesley]] 19:17, 30 December 2011 (EST)
::::::::::I think Ron Paul should be on the list. No-one has a monopoly on the term "conservative". Well-meaning people can disagree on exactly what actions are termed conservative or not. He should at least be in the running for the award, even if some people don't believe he has the right position on some issues. --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 23:57, 30 December 2011 (EST)