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:::: I watched them. Shock kinda makes my point: Kids are traumatised by the discovery that Santa does not exist and thus turn to atheism, because they did not process that trauma. <br /> I would argue that a child that reads Santa is "a big fat lie" might get more traumatised and would thus be more likely to turn to atheism, than when it would gradually find out that Santa does not exist. By this logic you should remove the Santa bit, since I am positive you do not want to turn children towards atheism, or do you?--[[User:VPropp|VPropp]] 13:04, 1 February 2012 (EST)
 
:::: I watched them. Shock kinda makes my point: Kids are traumatised by the discovery that Santa does not exist and thus turn to atheism, because they did not process that trauma. <br /> I would argue that a child that reads Santa is "a big fat lie" might get more traumatised and would thus be more likely to turn to atheism, than when it would gradually find out that Santa does not exist. By this logic you should remove the Santa bit, since I am positive you do not want to turn children towards atheism, or do you?--[[User:VPropp|VPropp]] 13:04, 1 February 2012 (EST)
 
:::::::The sooner they find out Santa is a lie, the less emotional attachment they will have. :)  I realize that liberals and other haters of reality might find this notion horrid, but those who love truth/reality find this idea quite acceptable. :) Besides, parents have no business lying to their kids about Santa.  No parent should lie to their children about Santa. "There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers." Proverbs 6:16-19.  "But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” - Revelation 21:8  "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight." - Proverbs 12:22 [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:34, 1 February 2012 (EST)
 
:::::::The sooner they find out Santa is a lie, the less emotional attachment they will have. :)  I realize that liberals and other haters of reality might find this notion horrid, but those who love truth/reality find this idea quite acceptable. :) Besides, parents have no business lying to their kids about Santa.  No parent should lie to their children about Santa. "There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers." Proverbs 6:16-19.  "But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” - Revelation 21:8  "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight." - Proverbs 12:22 [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:34, 1 February 2012 (EST)
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:::::::: Hm, I see your point. I would though still argue that it is the parents job to tell their children the truth about Santa, not ours. If the parents want to lie to their children, let them. "The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." Ezekiel 18:20. The kids will not be damaged in the eyes of God by the lies of their parents.<br /> I can see why you disagree and urge you therefore for consistency, by inserting the information about the santa complex in the main [[Santa]] article.--[[User:VPropp|VPropp]] 17:28, 1 February 2012 (EST)
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