Talk:Essay: Did Conservapedia weigh down American Atheists' web traffic?

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Why must you have such an informally rude tone to the atheist community? You know, you have the right to go around disproving their beliefs, but don't overgeneralize by attacking their personal life or physical health and say they're all fat (it seems heavily implied). This essay is just really rude--you seem to take delight in seeing crestfallen children, even if they are atheists. JLefkowitz 01:59, 1 February 2012 (EST)

That's just how user:Conservative operates. Most people ignore him and I suggest you do the same. He does not speak for Conservapedia. No point in getting involved. --DamianJohn 02:03, 1 February 2012 (EST)
This is blatantly false. So many of user:Conservatives articles are represented on the front page. I predict that CPs most viewed articles were either produced solely or in part by him. Not only does he speak for CP, he's essentially the voice of CP! I urge him to stop all this nonsense and produce some decent quality articles, but last time I tried he didn't respond. The essays are badly written, horribly laid out, unnecessarily provocative and pointless. user:Conservative, please consider making your own blog and stop polluting this encyclopedia. --RedGoliath 14:22, 1 February 2012 (GMT)

There is no reason for most overweight atheists to be crestfallen. Just get off the coach and jog around the block. Exercise increases endorphins in the brain which cheers people up. WebMD: "Improved self-esteem is a key psychological benefit of regular physical activity. When you exercise, your body releases chemicals called endorphins. These endorphins interact with the receptors in your brain that reduce your perception of pain. Endorphins also trigger a positive feeling in the body, similar to that of morphine. For example, the feeling that follows a run or workout is often described as "euphoric." That feeling, known as a "runner's high," can be accompanied by a positive and energizing outlook on life."[1] Atheists have higher suicide rates (see: Atheism and suicide and Atheism and depression). Perhaps if more overweight atheists got off the coach and spent more time in the gym, there would be less depression among the general atheist population. Also, exercise gives you a feeling of machismo which is something that many atheists do not have (see: Atheism and cowardice and Essay: Does Richard Dawkins have machismo?). :)

Second, consider this: Psalm 14:1-3 "The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none that does good. The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any that act wisely, that seek after God. They have all gone astray, they are all alike corrupt; there is none that does good, no, not one." Also, Proverbs 26:1: "Like snow in summer and like rain in harvest, So honor is not fitting for a fool." So it appears as if the Bible is saying that foolish atheists do not deserve to be given honor. Conservative 02:36, 1 February 2012 (EST)


Could somebody please remove the whole Santa-thing? As I understand it, Conservapedia also serves as an educational ressource for children. I think you should leave their believe in Santa alone and not crush it, by calling it "a big fat lie". The actual Santa article on this site is much more diplomatic by calling Santa a "legend". If somebody does remove the Santa-thing I would also kindly ask, that this section be removed, so as to keep the legend alive. --VPropp 08:13, 1 February 2012 (EST)

Have you seen these videos: Video 1 and VIDEO 2 :) Conservative 12:29, 1 February 2012 (EST)
I watched them. Shock kinda makes my point: Kids are traumatised by the discovery that Santa does not exist and thus turn to atheism, because they did not process that trauma.
I would argue that a child that reads Santa is "a big fat lie" might get more traumatised and would thus be more likely to turn to atheism, than when it would gradually find out that Santa does not exist. By this logic you should remove the Santa bit, since I am positive you do not want to turn children towards atheism, or do you?--VPropp 13:04, 1 February 2012 (EST)
The sooner they find out Santa is a lie, the less emotional attachment they will have. :) I realize that liberals and other haters of reality might find this notion horrid, but those who love truth/reality find this idea quite acceptable. :) Besides, parents have no business lying to their kids about Santa. No parent should lie to their children about Santa. "There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers." Proverbs 6:16-19. "But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” - Revelation 21:8 "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight." - Proverbs 12:22 Conservative 16:34, 1 February 2012 (EST)
Hm, I see your point. I would though still argue that it is the parents job to tell their children the truth about Santa, not ours. If the parents want to lie to their children, let them. "The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." Ezekiel 18:20. The kids will not be damaged in the eyes of God by the lies of their parents.
I can see why you disagree and urge you therefore for consistency, by inserting the information about the santa complex in the main Santa article.--VPropp 17:28, 1 February 2012 (EST)