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:::I agree there. The argument presented especially fails when considering people who have a team nearby playing in sports. Regardless of who is favored to win, sports fans that have local teams playing will probably cheer for them. Just because atheists don't believe in God doesn't mean that they don't believe in anything. [[User:JLefkowitz|JLefkowitz]] 00:06, 7 February 2012 (EST)
 
:::I agree there. The argument presented especially fails when considering people who have a team nearby playing in sports. Regardless of who is favored to win, sports fans that have local teams playing will probably cheer for them. Just because atheists don't believe in God doesn't mean that they don't believe in anything. [[User:JLefkowitz|JLefkowitz]] 00:06, 7 February 2012 (EST)
 
::::What I meant was that atheism says nothing about either faith or hope ''per se''.  An atheist can have faith in all manner of things other than gods.  And they can certainly have hope.  --[[User:JohnSpheniscidae|JohnSpheniscidae]] 00:12, 7 February 2012 (EST)
 
::::What I meant was that atheism says nothing about either faith or hope ''per se''.  An atheist can have faith in all manner of things other than gods.  And they can certainly have hope.  --[[User:JohnSpheniscidae|JohnSpheniscidae]] 00:12, 7 February 2012 (EST)
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== Do Atheists dislike underdogs? ==
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Whilst I recognise that this is Andy's website, and he is free to write about whatever mystery he is unable to answer; I feel that someone must point out that there appears no reason at all to suspect that atheists dislike underdogs.  Certainly Andy has not given one other than "common knowledge".  Well, the knowledge cannot be all that common because I have never heard of it. 
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However my objection goes further than simply one of insufficient evidence; I simply don't think the claim is true.  I was at a major rugby 7's tournament in the weekend in NZ, obviously one of the most atheistic countries in the world, and in an event with excesses of drinking, incivility and lewdness (all atheistic traits as I'm sure we can agree).  I can assure everybody that apart from when NZ was involved '''without exception''' the teams that got the most support were always the lesser team or underdog.  I have witnessed this trait in sporting crowds all throughout the world, from South America to Australia to the UK - whenever there is no local team playing crowds invariably support the underdog. 
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I don't see any reason at all to think that atheists see things differently, and this essay does not provide assistance.  I hope we can have a sensible discussion about this idea.  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 00:15, 7 February 2012 (EST)
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