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Talk:Mystery:Why Do Atheists Dislike Underdogs? (view source)
Revision as of 03:59, February 9, 2012
, 03:59, February 9, 2012Here is what you asked my friend !
::I believe you forgot the "ir" before relevant. As far as I am concerned, this has nothing to do with the discussed matter... There is no more reason to say that religion is the reason why Uk has worse social mobility than the US than to say that religion is the reason why Sweden has better social mobility than the US. --[[User:PhilipN|PhilipN]] 19:16, 8 February 2012 (EST)
::I believe you forgot the "ir" before relevant. As far as I am concerned, this has nothing to do with the discussed matter... There is no more reason to say that religion is the reason why Uk has worse social mobility than the US than to say that religion is the reason why Sweden has better social mobility than the US. --[[User:PhilipN|PhilipN]] 19:16, 8 February 2012 (EST)
:::PhilipN, you can continue to assert that religion and religious cultural legacies do not affect social mobility and industriousness, but you have failed to provide data to support this notion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)
:::PhilipN, you can continue to assert that religion and religious cultural legacies do not affect social mobility and industriousness, but you have failed to provide data to support this notion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)
::::I never said that cultural legacies has no effect on social mobility but I maintain that religion is irrelevant here. I have some nice data for you:
::::* [[United Kingdom]] : 19% of atheists/agnostics<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/programmes/wtwtgod/pdf/wtwtogod.pdf</ref> and a bad social mobility (0.5)<ref>http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/2/7/45002641.pdf</ref>
::::* [[United States]] : 9% of atheists/agnostics<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/programmes/wtwtgod/pdf/wtwtogod.pdf</ref> and a bad social mobility (~0.47)<ref>http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/2/7/45002641.pdf</ref>
::::* [[Denmark]] : 43-80% of atheists/agnostics<ref>http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html</ref> and a very good social mobility (~0.15)<ref>http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/2/7/45002641.pdf</ref>
::::* [[Sweden]] : 46-85% of atheists/agnostics<ref>http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html</ref> and an average social mobility (~0.28)<ref>http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/2/7/45002641.pdf</ref>
::::* [[Australia]] : 24-25% of atheists/agnostics<ref>http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html</ref> and a very good social mobility (~0.18)<ref>http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/2/7/45002641.pdf</ref>
::::--[[User:PhilipN|PhilipN]] 22:59, 8 February 2012 (EST)
:::::User: BaileyJ, I realize that liberals are often allergic to data and the real world, nevertheless Britain having a history of societal stratification compared to many Western nations is still real. In addition, irresponsible centrally controlled social programs creating dependency and less social mobility is also still real. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:03, 8 February 2012 (EST)
:::::User: BaileyJ, I realize that liberals are often allergic to data and the real world, nevertheless Britain having a history of societal stratification compared to many Western nations is still real. In addition, irresponsible centrally controlled social programs creating dependency and less social mobility is also still real. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:03, 8 February 2012 (EST)