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::::::User: BaileyJ, I realize that liberals are often allergic to data and the real world, nevertheless Britain having a history of societal stratification compared to many Western nations is still real. In addition, irresponsible centrally controlled social programs creating dependency and less social mobility is also still real. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:03, 8 February 2012 (EST)
 
::::::User: BaileyJ, I realize that liberals are often allergic to data and the real world, nevertheless Britain having a history of societal stratification compared to many Western nations is still real. In addition, irresponsible centrally controlled social programs creating dependency and less social mobility is also still real. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:03, 8 February 2012 (EST)
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:::It's true that we Brits like to think of ourselves as supporting underdogs, but do we in reality? The most popular football club in England is also the most successful - Manchester United. The increase in the success of Chelsea FC over the last decade has undeniably been matched by an increase in the number of Chelsea fans. Internationally, people generally just support England, no matter whether they're an underdog (eg at the highest level of football) or a world-beating power (tae-kwon-doe, darts, tiddlywinks).--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:29, 9 February 2012 (EST)
    
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