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Talk:Mystery:Why Do Atheists Dislike Underdogs? (view source)
Revision as of 17:37, February 9, 2012
, 17:37, February 9, 2012→UK has worse social mobility than most other developed countries plus ungodly UK citizens and poodles and other underdogs
::::::User: BaileyJ, I realize that liberals are often allergic to data and the real world, nevertheless Britain having a history of societal stratification compared to many Western nations is still real. In addition, irresponsible centrally controlled social programs creating dependency and less social mobility is also still real. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:03, 8 February 2012 (EST)
::::::User: BaileyJ, I realize that liberals are often allergic to data and the real world, nevertheless Britain having a history of societal stratification compared to many Western nations is still real. In addition, irresponsible centrally controlled social programs creating dependency and less social mobility is also still real. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:03, 8 February 2012 (EST)
:::It's true that we Brits like to think of ourselves as supporting underdogs, but do we in reality? The most popular football club in England is also the most successful - Manchester United. The increase in the success of Chelsea FC over the last decade has undeniably been matched by an increase in the number of Chelsea fans. Internationally, people generally just support England, no matter whether they're an underdog (eg at the highest level of football) or a world-beating power (tae-kwon-doe, darts, tiddlywinks).--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:29, 9 February 2012 (EST)
:::It's true that we Brits like to think of ourselves as supporting underdogs, but do we in reality? The most popular football club in England is also the most successful - Manchester United. The increase in the success of Chelsea FC over the last decade has undeniably been matched by an increase in the number of Chelsea fans. Internationally, people generally just support England, no matter whether they're an underdog (eg at the highest level of football) or a world-beating power (tae-kwon-doe, darts, tiddlywinks).--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:29, 9 February 2012 (EST)
This fascination discussion proves the silliness of simplification and gross generalisations. The UK has higher social stratification and slightly lower social mobility than the US because it is less Christian than the US. Scandinavian countries are more successful because they have a protestant cultural heritage, although less of a protestant cultural heritage than the UK. Germany and France have higher productivity than the UK (and credit ratings equal to or higher than the US, as does the UK) although they are both more atheistic and socialist than the UK and the US. Confused? You should be. [[User:Rafael|Rafael]] 12:37, 9 February 2012 (EST)
== Atheists and surprises ==
== Atheists and surprises ==