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Talk:Mystery:Why Do Atheists Dislike Underdogs? (view source)
Revision as of 18:14, February 9, 2012
, 18:14, February 9, 2012→UK has worse social mobility than most other developed countries plus ungodly UK citizens and poodles and other underdogs
:Congratulations. Reasonably on topic reply. It does however display a woeful lack of knowledge of the British and British culture. Tell me, do you really think that a culture which did not support the underdog would have taken so much to heart the ski-jumper as they did during the winter olympics? Or as someone else has mentioned the devoutly christian Susan Boyle would have been taken to British hearts in the way that she was? [[User:Davidspencer|Davidspencer]] 08:12, 9 February 2012 (EST)
:Congratulations. Reasonably on topic reply. It does however display a woeful lack of knowledge of the British and British culture. Tell me, do you really think that a culture which did not support the underdog would have taken so much to heart the ski-jumper as they did during the winter olympics? Or as someone else has mentioned the devoutly christian Susan Boyle would have been taken to British hearts in the way that she was? [[User:Davidspencer|Davidspencer]] 08:12, 9 February 2012 (EST)
::Davidspencer, I gave plenty of evidence that Britain is not underdog friendly in comparison to many other Western nations. However, nationalism is very emotionally powerful and I believe that no matter how much proof and evidence I give you, it will never be enough for you because you are not basing matters on logic, proof and evidence, but rather on emotion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 11:28, 9 February 2012 (EST)
::Davidspencer, I gave plenty of evidence that Britain is not underdog friendly in comparison to many other Western nations. However, nationalism is very emotionally powerful and I believe that no matter how much proof and evidence I give you, it will never be enough for you because you are not basing matters on logic, proof and evidence, but rather on emotion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 11:28, 9 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::Well, you didn't really. You gave a lot of fairly flimsy 'reasons' why you think that the UK is less favourable towards underdogs but you gave no concrete examples. Others however, including myself, have supplied many examples as to the fact that the British are known world wide for their support of underdogs. However on the basis that if this discussion is continued I will possibly be blocked for 90/10 I will no longer be replying to the (generally) unfounded assertions on both this talk page and those within the article itself. I withdraw from this discussion. [[User:Davidspencer|Davidspencer]] 13:14, 9 February 2012 (EST)
::::::Conservative, I do want to address your points but those are not always clear to me. I do agree with you on the fact that the UK has poor social mobility and that the US have a better social mobility than the UK and I really do agree that we live in a multi-variable world and that is exactly my point. I do not agree with your linking the social opportunities with religion and I believe I have provided more than enough evidence that those are not related.--[[User:PhilipN|PhilipN]] 00:19, 9 February 2012 (EST)
::::::Conservative, I do want to address your points but those are not always clear to me. I do agree with you on the fact that the UK has poor social mobility and that the US have a better social mobility than the UK and I really do agree that we live in a multi-variable world and that is exactly my point. I do not agree with your linking the social opportunities with religion and I believe I have provided more than enough evidence that those are not related.--[[User:PhilipN|PhilipN]] 00:19, 9 February 2012 (EST)