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::I'll give it a try.  The law of large numbers requires the sample observations (such as heights) to come from the same distribution.  Trends are seen in the heights over time.  Evolutionists would argue that this may suggest that the distribution of heights in the population (and thus the population) is, in fact, changing over time (which would make the law of large numbers inapplicable to these observations).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 23:24, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

::I'll give it a try.  The law of large numbers requires the sample observations (such as heights) to come from the same distribution.  Trends are seen in the heights over time.  Evolutionists would argue that this may suggest that the distribution of heights in the population (and thus the population) is, in fact, changing over time (which would make the law of large numbers inapplicable to these observations).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 23:24, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

::Andy, you ever hear of something called a "one-way hash function"? It's a cryptographic (or loosely mathematical) term for something that's easy to solve in one direction, but  a real pain to solve in reverse. Sort of like cubing versus finding the cube route. Anyway, you're laying out a one-way hash argument. Your statement is simple, but the disproof would require more effort than I'm willing to expend. But in brief, the human race may have a mean height, weight, skin tone... or whatever. If you take measurements at random intervals you will find that the mean is gradually changing, not that populations are gravitating back towards the original mean. And what do we call a change over time? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 23:33, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

::Andy, you ever hear of something called a "one-way hash function"? It's a cryptographic (or loosely mathematical) term for something that's easy to solve in one direction, but  a real pain to solve in reverse. Sort of like cubing versus finding the cube route. Anyway, you're laying out a one-way hash argument. Your statement is simple, but the disproof would require more effort than I'm willing to expend. But in brief, the human race may have a mean height, weight, skin tone... or whatever. If you take measurements at random intervals you will find that the mean is gradually changing, not that populations are gravitating back towards the original mean. And what do we call a change over time? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 23:33, 14 March 2012

 

::How about this for a short explanation. Microevolution (which has been observed to exist in the wild) relies on genetic drift. Since genetic drift it known to happen in microevolution the law of truly large numbers is either false, or it does not apply. --[[User:HHB|HHB]] 18:15, 15 March 2012 (EDT)