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Line 75: − + − Are you kidding me? Whoever thinks homosexuality is a mental illness is so wrong. The majority of homosexuals are mentally sane and probably moreso than most of the idiots who think there is something wrong with it. Have you people been living in caves? A large proportion of people who have really made an impact on the world in some way are/were homosexuals...think about Oscar Wilde etc! + − You people who think it is a mental illness, I have one more thing to say to you, − Return to your amish hovels and churn butter until you can do so no more, then sod-off back to the dark ages from whence you came! [[User:bealecr]] 14:34, 25 September 2007 (EDT) Line 113:
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Debate:Is homosexuality a mental illness? (view source)
Revision as of 20:00, June 30, 2012
, 20:00, June 30, 2012→NO: Comments
==NO==
==NO==
A person should not be said to have a mental illness unless the person's actions substantially impair their ability to function in their work or personal life. Homosexuality does not impair one's ability to function; it does not impair a person's ability to fulfill their responsibilities at work, and does not prevent them from creating and maintaining meaningful and healthy personal relationships. Additionally, homosexuals are as psychologically healthy as heterosexuals. (Strickland, B.R. (1995). Research on sexual orientation and human development: A commentary. ''Developmental Psychology, 31,'' 137-140). Problems with homosexuality stem from the attitudes and actions of others toward homosexuals rather than from a homosexual's sexual preference.
A person should not be said to have a mental illness unless the person's actions substantially impair their ability to function in their work or personal life. Homosexuality does not impair one's ability to function;'''''Italic text'''Wait a moment! There are many mental illnesses that do not impair people's ability to carry out a job. Delusions, compulsive actions, self-harm, can all exist for years while the person concerned still does their job. Wherever you got this definition from, it is not a professional one or a realistic one. You say that if something impairs your ability to function in your personal life it is a mental illness. Obviously, homosexuality does impair how people function in their personal life since it renders them unable to have a sexual relationship with the opposite sex and reproduce according to the pattern of nature.''
On the other hand, one could certainly make a strong argument that homophobia is a mental illness. Homophobia, as an intense, irrational hostility toward or fear of homosexuals, has a high potential for impairing an individual's ability to perform in their employment. The majority of careers will require interacting with homosexuals at some point. If a person has such a loathing or fear of these individuals that he cannot work well with them, his homophobia will prevent him from fulfilling his employment responsibilities. --[[User:Laches|Laches]] 16:07, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
it does not impair a person's ability to fulfill their responsibilities at work, and does not prevent them from creating and maintaining meaningful and healthy personal relationships.
'''''Italic text'''Wrong again, Statistics show that homosexuals are much more likely to be promiscuous, violent, suicidal and drug-abusers. They also less likely to be able to have a close lasting relationship. All of that adds up to a picture that is not exactly a indication of mental health! '' Additionally, homosexuals are as psychologically healthy as heterosexuals. (Strickland, B.R. (1995). Research on sexual orientation and human development: A commentary. ''Developmental Psychology, 31,'' 137-140). Problems with homosexuality stem from the attitudes and actions of others toward homosexuals rather than from a homosexual's sexual preference. '''''Italic text''' Wrong, this has been conclusively refuted.''
On the other hand, one could certainly make a strong argument that homophobia is a mental illness.
'''PROBLEM''': There is no such thing as "homophobia"! It is not a term in professional psychiatry. It doesn't even mean anything! (etymologically homo +phobia = fear of yourself.) It is a phoney word invented to abuse those who will not accept the nonsensical arguments broadcast by the gay fanatics.
What you call irrational is actually more rational than you want to admit. People who reject your moral arguments are not suffering from a fear, it could be you who is suffering from an irrational fear of the opposite sex. It looks to me as if you will have great difficulty in working with the sane majority.
'''''Bold text'''''Homophobia, as an intense, irrational hostility toward or fear of homosexuals, has a high potential for impairing an individual's ability to perform in their employment. The majority of careers will require interacting with homosexuals at some point. If a person has such a loathing or fear of these individuals that he cannot work well with them, his homophobia will prevent him from fulfilling his employment responsibilities. --[[User:Laches|Laches]] 16:07, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
Laches, in that case it sounds like you might be suffering from heterophobia. If people want to apply the label of mental illness to everthing they don't approve of then that can be a serious problem also. Such as the person that said the children of Christians going to public schools should be treated as if having a mental illness. Can you see the problem with that? I would hope that such people wouldn't be allowed into a position of authority over anyone. But it is just as well they say such things so that it will show the rest of us how intense and irrationally hostile people can be.--[[User:Roopilots6|Roopilots6]] 09:48, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
Laches, in that case it sounds like you might be suffering from heterophobia. If people want to apply the label of mental illness to everthing they don't approve of then that can be a serious problem also. Such as the person that said the children of Christians going to public schools should be treated as if having a mental illness. Can you see the problem with that? I would hope that such people wouldn't be allowed into a position of authority over anyone. But it is just as well they say such things so that it will show the rest of us how intense and irrationally hostile people can be.--[[User:Roopilots6|Roopilots6]] 09:48, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
While I don't know what Roopilots6 is trying to say with the heterophobia comment, his basic argument is concise and accurate. The fact that some individuals disagree with homosexuality does not justify the labeling of it as a mental illness.--[[User:Laches|Laches]] 12:46, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
While I don't know what Roopilots6 is trying to say with the heterophobia comment, his basic argument is concise and accurate. The fact that some individuals disagree with homosexuality does not justify the labeling of it as a mental illness.--[[User:Laches|Laches]] 12:46, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
NO!!! Homosexuality is not a mental illness,is not immoral, and is not wrong in any way, ask yourself is it your fault you like choclate, or, better yet is it your fault your conservetive, there is nothing wrong being homosexual, and homosexuality s not a mental illness, twins may have identical genetics but just grew up differently and one became homosexual it has no basis in genetics -RG :{
NO!!! Homosexuality is not a mental illness,is not immoral, and is not wrong in any way, ask yourself is it your fault you like choclate, or, better yet is it your fault your conservetive, there is nothing wrong being homosexual, and homosexuality s not a mental illness, twins may have identical genetics but just grew up differently and one became homosexual it has no basis in genetics -RG :{
I understand why some people disagree with homosexuality, but, as Laches said, just because people disagree with it does not constitute calling it a mental illness. If that was so, you could call democrats, conservatives, Michael Moore (alright, he is kind of nuts), liking or not liking a TV show, or any number of things a mental illness. Also, tolerating homosexuality is different from accepting it. You don't have to think it's totally alright. Heck, I don't think a lot of things the government does are totally alright. That doesn't mean that I'm an anarchist. I tolerate it. The same thing goes for homosexuality. You may not agree with it, but at least be respectful of it. --[[User:SapphoChan17|SapphoChan17]] 7:16, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
I understand why some people disagree with homosexuality, but, as Laches said, just because people disagree with it does not constitute calling it a mental illness. If that was so, you could call democrats, conservatives, Michael Moore (alright, he is kind of nuts), liking or not liking a TV show, or any number of things a mental illness. Also, tolerating homosexuality is different from accepting it. You don't have to think it's totally alright. Heck, I don't think a lot of things the government does are totally alright. That doesn't mean that I'm an anarchist. I tolerate it. The same thing goes for homosexuality. You may not agree with it, but at least be respectful of it. --[[User:SapphoChan17|SapphoChan17]] 7:16, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
Let me say that it is as much a mental illness as liking the color red, or living in a big house, or anything else that is just a way of life [[User:Eljawa|Eljawa]] 08:41, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
Let me say that it is as much a mental illness as liking the color red, or living in a big house, or anything else that is just a way of life [[User:Eljawa|Eljawa]] 08:41, 25 July 2007 (EDT)
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leave the bible out of this! For gosh sakes, not everthing has to do with the bible. It is a book, and like the Koran, even Harry Potter, you can chose to believe in it. If you don't want to, thats fine. Homosexualioty may be a disorder from birth, a disorder won choses, or even just someone choosing to be gay. Most gays proby wouldnt chose this though considering how much flack they get mind you. if it is a disorder who cares though? Being gay should be no differnt then being black, white, or born with only one leg. We should all strive to achieve whats best for ourselfs and if being gay makes you happy, then go ahead. it doesnt matter if you chose to or not, do what you want. And by the way, how is discriminating against the gays good for heterosexuals? It benifits them in NO way.
leave the bible out of this! For gosh sakes, not everthing has to do with the bible. It is a book, and like the Koran, even Harry Potter, you can chose to believe in it. If you don't want to, thats fine. Homosexualioty may be a disorder from birth, a disorder won choses, or even just someone choosing to be gay. Most gays proby wouldnt chose this though considering how much flack they get mind you. if it is a disorder who cares though? Being gay should be no differnt then being black, white, or born with only one leg. We should all strive to achieve whats best for ourselfs and if being gay makes you happy, then go ahead. it doesnt matter if you chose to or not, do what you want. And by the way, how is discriminating against the gays good for heterosexuals? It benifits them in NO way.
Being a gay male, I can tell you that it certainly isn't a choice that I'm attracted to males. And since it does not negatively impact my ability to function in society or impair my thought process in any way, I think I can safely say that it isn't a mental illness. It is a choice to act on desires, but the desires themselves aren't a choice. Just to be clear. So...how is it a disease, again? - MattOfMadison
Being a gay male, I can tell you that it certainly isn't a choice that I'm attracted to males. And since it does not negatively impact my ability to function in society or impair my thought process in any way, I think I can safely say that it isn't a mental illness. It is a choice to act on desires, but the desires themselves aren't a choice. Just to be clear. So...how is it a disease, again? - MattOfMadison
No, it is not a disease. Homosexuality exists in thousands of species in the world<ref>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html</ref><ref>http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx</ref>. This alone should prove that it is a natural thing, not something to be feared, judged, or labeled as an illness. But, if I must continue, it has existed in cultures throughout history. It was used ceremonially in Ancient Egypt. Ancient Greek and Roman cultures, where we get the foundations for our government, welcomed and often expected homosexuality as part of their lifestyle. How can something so commonly found be written off as an illness? --[[User:JoKester|JoKester]] 14:12, 27 November 2011 (EST)
No, it is not a disease. Homosexuality exists in thousands of species in the world<ref>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html</ref><ref>http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx</ref>. This alone should prove that it is a natural thing, not something to be feared, judged, or labeled ###as an illness. But, if I must continue, it has existed in cultures throughout history. It was used ceremonially in Ancient Egypt. Ancient Greek and Roman cultures, where we get the foundations for our government, welcomed and often expected homosexuality as part of their lifestyle. How can something so commonly found be written off as an illness? --[[User:JoKester|JoKester]] 14:12, 27 November 2011 (EST)
Ancient Greek and Roman cultures also accepted slavery, glorified war and regarded women as inferior to men. Why shouldn't we question their attitudes in other respects?
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==More Research Needed==