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:I wanted to start off by saying that a few comments that Ed Poor made are not scientific.  If this is a scientific debate, than keep it that way.  If you want to turn in into a theological debate justifying homophobia than move the debate elsewhere.
 
:I wanted to start off by saying that a few comments that Ed Poor made are not scientific.  If this is a scientific debate, than keep it that way.  If you want to turn in into a theological debate justifying homophobia than move the debate elsewhere.
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:To state unequivocally that homosexuality "is a development disorder which begins in early childhood," is dishonest.  Homosexuality is no longer considered a mental illness by the American Psychiatric Association and the World Health Organization. <ref> http://www.psych.org/pnews/00-09-01/recalling.html [http://www.psych.org/pnews/00-09-01/recalling.html] </ref> <ref> http://www.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/ [http://www.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/] </ref> Assuming homosexuality was a mental disorder, there is no justification for excluding theories discussing the origins of homosexuality.  There may still be a biological or environmental basis for such sexual orientation even if it was remotely close to being considered a mental disorder.  Mental disorders are arguably subjective classifications, do not address why such disorders occur, and such a classification is overall irrelevant to understanding homosexual behavior. <ref> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mental-illness/ [http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mental-illness/] </ref>
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:To state unequivocally that homosexuality "is a development disorder which begins in early childhood," is dishonest.  Homosexuality is no longer considered a mental illness by the American Psychiatric Association and the World Health Organization. <ref> http://www.psych.org/pnews/00-09-01/recalling.html [http://www.psych.org/pnews/00-09-01/recalling.html] </ref> <ref> http://www.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/ [http://www.who.int/classifications/apps/icd/icd10online/] </ref>
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''[Actually the reason they changed their stance was nothing to do with research,m but was the result of bullying by violent gay activists.]'' '''Bold text'''
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  Assuming homosexuality was a mental disorder, there is no justification for excluding theories discussing the origins of homosexuality.  There may still be a biological or environmental basis for such sexual orientation even if it was remotely close to being considered a mental disorder.  Mental disorders are arguably subjective classifications, do not address why such disorders occur, and such a classification is overall irrelevant to understanding homosexual behavior. <ref> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mental-illness/ [http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mental-illness/] </ref>
    
:If "attempts to consider [homosexuality] 'normal' are politically and ideologically motivated," then attempts to consider it abnormal are also politically and ideologically motivated.
 
:If "attempts to consider [homosexuality] 'normal' are politically and ideologically motivated," then attempts to consider it abnormal are also politically and ideologically motivated.
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