Talk:Civil service system

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Almost all countries, including the United States, have civil service systems, not just China. --WOVcenter 04:10, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

Era of Big Government

This page isnt about big government - its about Civil Service. How the growth of civil service leads to big government is one issue.RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 20:24, 30 December 2018 (EST)

Throughout American history, there has been an ebb and flow in the growth of civil service. The New Deal, Great Society, and Obamunism are great examples how the parameters are often set in a few years that remain in place for decades. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 20:32, 30 December 2018 (EST)

The page does not have to be about big government. Perhaps it shouldn't mention it at all if that is how you want it to be. The problem is that it is highly misleading as currently stated. It points people in the wrong time/era. Progressingamerica (talk) 23:09, 30 December 2018 (EST)
The federal civil service had grown in size and function from the beginning. Most notably after 1933, when it began taking on functions it never was involved in before. But the clear dividing line is between 1876 and 1882 when Republicans ceded their victory and spoils back to the Democrats.
The Progressive Era as you mention (let's date it for purposes of this discussion from 1882-1916), didn't expand government noticably in size or function. It just transitioned from spoils to career bureaucrats which, if anything, actually reduced the number of veteran employees of civil service over that 36 year time span.
And granted, a discussion of wartime civil service changes many of the generalities.
One other thing is noticable: the creation of the Federal Reserve Board and passage of the income tax in the 1910s did not noticably increase the size of the civil service immediately - not until 1933 when it actually made it easier and more natural to grow. RobSDeep Six the Deep State! 23:28, 30 December 2018 (EST)