Talk:Japanese animation

I'd like to make a glossary of Japanese terms, such as hentai, used by Western anime fans. Wikipedia uses far too many of these loan words, and I feel it obscures understanding for those who are not immersed in field. Too much jargon is the enemy of understanding. --Ed Poor ^Talk 08:47, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

Ed, leave me a message on my talk when you get started on that glossary; I can probably help out a bit. Stryker 09:23, 3 July 2007 (EDT)

I doubt it's that confusing; Wikipedia has articles on the majority of the loanwords it uses...

Besides, can't have an entry on hentai here. Hentai isn't family friendly, last time I checked. Kazumaru 22:34, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

Might be misleading.

"Anime is divided into the same genres as manga, with a heavy emphasis on violence and romance which blends seamlessly into softcore porn (and beyond)."

This, in my opinion, gives the impression that if you look towards anime, you'll always find violence, romance, and porn. Although cetain anime types are just this, anime is much more broad than violence, romance,and porn!

This is like saying:

"Motion pictures have a heavy emphasis on violence and porn (and beyond)." --Funnny 21:54, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Not exactly: they do have a lot of violence and sex, though. Anime tends to have much more of this than Western animation, though.

If you have access to studies which shed light on this, please reveal these!

If you know anything about Japanese animation, please tell us how much of it is violent (or not), and how much is romantic, soft porn, or ecchi (i.e., porn). For example, how would you classify Sailor Moon? Have you seen even one episode without a romance or soft-porn aspect?

The most popular anime in the US for children is all about training "pocket-sized monsters" (Pokemon) to fight each other. It looks pretty violent to me. What do you think? --Ed Poor ^Talk 10:12, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Okay, I've changed it to:

"Anime is divided into the same genres as manga, much with an emphasis on violence, romance, pornography, and beyond."

I thought it unfair to say "Anime is". I'm very aware that a large portion is devoted to just what the article says though. Hence, I've changed it to "Much is." --Funnny 20:06, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

Italicization

Is it really nessecary to italicize every instance of the word "anime"? If so, why not do it for manga, as well? Kazumaru 22:30, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

There is a serious need for updating.

>_> Why are there, like, 3 sentances about anime? Why DOES it need to be /i/ all the time?

And instead of being terribly vauge about anime, get specific. Don't tell people what they should think about it, give them the facts! >_<

If people still want the anime and manga pages updated and expanded, I don't mind pitching in, self-proclaimed otaku that I am. Welshman 10:28, 13 March 2008 (EDT)

I'm going to add details about popular Japanese folklore, next... I am tired of people saying Goku is inspired by shaman masks. ProserpinaFC

Nicer page than I expected

I actually expected Anime to be torn appart and burned, but this is the most neutral page I have seen. I'm going to do some reserach and find some Conservative leaning Anime and Manga for suggestions for people to check out. So long and everyone understand the line between fantasy and reality with these. They are just stories, don't cha know. Infact, I just thought of one. Code Geass. It is basically the American Revolution placed in Japan. Aside from violence (It is a war.) And apparently the anti-hero using his mind control power on a sentient being described as 'God', the Anime is very good and worth a look at. MHarris

Revert

I reverted the most recent edit because the tone was incurably un-encyclopedic. The content seemed fairly reasonable, but it was all worded like a talk page entry rather than an article. Jcw 14:58, 2 June 2011 (EDT)

Ya, apparently I'm still new to this. I keep reading up on what other articals are doing and what the help pages said but I guess I can't organize my words like an Encyclopedia... Oh well.

I'm not in a position of authority here, but I'd say the content I reverted would be suited to an essay - encyclopedia articles need to be balanced and factual, but an essay can express a point of view in a more discursive style. Jcw 15:27, 2 June 2011 (EDT)

Christianity and Anime as part of the Image of God and the Afterlife

Hello, in this discussion section of Conservapedia i would like to note how Anime and Manga has ties with Christianity both ontological and epistemological, how it is essentialy part of the Image of God and why there is no reason for keeping away from the medium anymore simply because of some old misconceptions from the united states. The terms Anime and Manga are universal now and are not tied to a specific place even though they originated from Japan, anime and manga is now a universal aspect and ecompasses this perfected form of artstyle and emotions that manifest everything in its most perfected appearance.

The ontological aspect is that God has made mankind in His Image and the anime and manga worlds have been created from the desire for eternity and beauty that God has placed in the souls of all people, this is also why anime and manga have such beautiful aesthetics and heartwarming feelings, it reveals how the redeemed spiritual mankind is supposed to manifest in the afterlife. Since Anime and Manga have every imaginable genre and subgenre with millions of franchises, there are of course some genres of anime that might be sinful but this is only because these are also part of the fallen nature of man and anime and manga encompass everything that makes up mankind. So as long as your desires are pure, you repent of your sins and place your trust in Christ, your personal anime world and beloved anime characters should manifest in Heaven for all eternity, for the ultimate purpose to glorify God.

The epistemological aspect is that Christianity is the foundation of modern civilizations, the hospital system, the university system, the airport system, technology, the internet and so on, this started early in the church history and after with the scientific revolution of the 16h century which was made possible only through a Christian framework because of people that had the common knowledge that firstly God created an orderly universe, secondly that because mankind is made in His image humans are able to understand the universe, thirdly by discovering his creation as well as the general revelation of his nature it helped in understand more of the Creator and the divine altogether, and fourthly because understanding the universe was also a form of Worship. While this knowledge expanded and was spread worldwide, the discovery of Anime and Manga finally came to be revealed, which manifests everything in the most beautiful and stylish appearances.

After seeing some very old comments in the talk page section of Conservapedia regarding Anime it seems like there was some sort of unreasonable and outdated denunciation towards the medium from americans specific, and the problem with this is that this sort of outdated aggresion has nothing to do with Christianity or Conservatism in general, but with American Nationalism specific. and even though nationalism is not neccessarily a bad thing, in this case sadly it makes Christianity in the far west look bad as well and in an unjustified way because it drags down the system that Jesus revealed into some wrongly put opinions of a specific country which gives overall a bad image since Anime and Manga are universal and an essential aspect of Christianity. Also labeling the worlds of anime with the term fantasy as in a way of denouncing them does not make much sense since all of these anime and manga worlds were created by the desire and promise of Jesus for the afterlife which existed since the fall at the Garden of Eden, and they even though the anime worlds are immaterial at the moment they still exist in the souls of people and within the nature of God.

Finally an additional note is for a specific genre, the Isekai. The main purpose for Isekai genre specific is simply because of the afterlife and the spiritual desires that everyone has, throughout the entire history of mankind, all civilizations have unnanimously believed in the immortality of the soul, the spirit world and the Presence of God as common knowledge, passing away and the afterlife has always been the most important question for every individual, nothing can change the importance of this spiritual reality. Anime manifests everything in the most aesthetically beautiful way possible and the Isekai genre reveals many various worlds and aspects that people desire to have in the afterlife. The fullness of the Isekai storylines is to explore possible things such as worlds and characters that you can have and create in the afterlife by the grace of the Lord Jesus and as anime manifestations they reach the most perfected appearances, like true Heaven.

Ok, first of all, look at Sailor Moon. It clearly glorifies homosexuality with Kunzite/Zoicite and Haruka/Michiru. Rei is also a Miko of the Japanese Shinto religion which is wholly incompatible with Christianity [1]. Second, the Dragon Ball franchise has supernatural concepts such as Ki and it's depictions of the afterlife which are also equally incompatible. Dragon Ball Z even has a character called "Mr. Satan" for crying out loud. Even Cardcaptor Sakura with it's cute imagery has Sakura's best friend having a lesbian crush on her and Sakura's brother has a gay crush on his best friend. At CP, we are not politically correct, we believe the Bible in exactly what it says about homosexuality, that God is the only God, and that Jesus is the only way to him. anything that opposes that is the literal meaning of sin, meaning to "miss the mark." Sign your posts with four tildes. Shobson20 (talk) 12:43, 7 December 2020 (EST)

This query is answered at paragraph two in the ontological aspect, because Anime and Manga have an innate connection with the Image of God, they encompass every genre and subgenre that could exist, which means they inevitably also include some genres and characteristics that are sinful and depraved in nature, because evil is part of the current fallen nature of man and anime and manga encompass everything that makes up mankind, the good and virtuous aspects however are the ones that will persevere in the anime worlds at the promise of salvation in Heaven. Moreover it is true that Shinto is not compatible with Christianity but it is as far as Japan could reach through the general revelation of God before receiving the Gospel of Jesus, although Anime and Manga have an essential link within Christianity because it is the foundation from God and also the concepts of Heaven and Hell are almost universal and are included in Shinto as well in a different form, there are some things that God has made sure that everyone would know. Anime and Manga is as well an innate aspect of the Image of God which manifests everything with the most beautiful and emotional appearance. Kirikagure 2:06 PM, 7 December 2020 (EDT)