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While it is within the bounds of liberal religious thought to exclude Moses as the writer of the Torah, you'd have to start with a given that the Bible is inherently false to conclude there was no Judaism in 1200 B.C. If you are going to use that yardstick, then you better write that Zoraster possibly existed, and the religion that bears his name may not have been created and first practiced until a thousand years later. Learn together 12:16, 10 August 2007 (EDT)