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I don't think that the number of page views is important information. --TimSvendsen 11:13, 10 January 2007 (EST)

I agree. Why should we brag about our page views? Even though 61,000 sounds impressive it is really quite insignificant. We should start bragging once we break 1,000,000.

--BenjaminS 12:22, 10 January 2007 (EST)

Page views reflects how much the resource is used. In many ways it is the most significant piece of information. Why do turnstiles have counters? To measure how many people are attending. Of course that's relevant. --Aschlafly 12:25, 10 January 2007 (EST)

Keep it... PhilipB 13:21, 10 January 2007 (EST)

That isn't the point. The number of page views is relevant info, but we don't have enough to brag about. You don't see fast food chains bragging that they have sold over 300 burgers. At this point we might just as well say something like "Conservapedia is a worthy but regretably unfrequented resource."

--BenjaminS 14:02, 10 January 2007 (EST)

Ben, what is your standard for having "enough to brag about?" Is it the amount Wikipedia has... if so that's like comparing apples to oranges. 60,000 views is a LOT. Some cooperate websites never get anywhere near this many views yet they pay thousands for website development. Having 60,000 views with only a handful of active users is something to brag about in my opinion. PhilipB 14:24, 10 January 2007 (EST)

  • Reply Comparing our page view stats to wikipedia's is not like comparing apples to oranges. We are the same type of site as [[wikipedia. --TimSvendsen 15:34, 10 January 2007 (EST)
    • Tim, last time I checked Conservapedia had a little less than a hundred users. Wikipedia has 3,216,930... I think that's apples to oranges, at least in terms of size and users. PhilipB 15:40, 10 January 2007 (EST)
      • Reply It is not like comparing apples to oranges, it is like comparing a tiny little green apple on a tree to a fully developed apple ready to eat. Eventually we want to be as big as Wikipedia, until then why brag about being small? --TimSvendsen 19:14, 10 January 2007 (EST)

The page view count does not reflect how much people use it as a source. it just shows that we have been working to build the site. Conservapedia at this point has very rarely if at all been used as a source. In fact, Conservapedia is not even ready to be used as a source. Most of the entries are terribly short and totaly unusable as source material. We do not even have an entry on World War II Probably more than 55,000 of the views are by people from our world history class. If we had 1,000,000 page views it might be something to brag about, but i am not even sure if that is a good idea.

  • REPLY: "it just shows that we have been working to build the site"..... exactly. We want people to know that we have been working on this. It's not just a good idea with no one really doing anything. "Most of the entries are terribly short and totally unusable".... that's completely wrong. I would rephrase as "most of our articles are short but all are usable." How many articles can you give that are "totally unusable?" PhilipB 15:48, 10 January 2007 (EST)
    • Reply You are taking it out of context. I said "totaly unusable as a source." If anyone wants to learn about something, or write a paper about something, then entries like "Augustus Caesar: The first Emperor of Rome, reigned 27 BC-AD 14. He restored order after centuries of civil war." do not help. Anyone looking for Augustus Caesar already knows that. also they can already tell that people are working on it because we have an entry count right there on the main page. --TimSvendsen 19:14, 10 January 2007 (EST)
Comment: Page views are like attendance. It's often the first question anyone asks a resource: how often was it used? So it is important to display the page views number, regardless of whether you think it is big or small.
  • Reply Page views are not an accurate count of how often it is used. I can go on here and post on this argument, look at a couple entries mess with my user page, and it will count as about 25 page views. someone else could want to research something look at it and learn what they need and it might count for 3 page views. --TimSvendsen 19:14, 10 January 2007 (EST)
Also, we have this fundamental difference with Wikipedia: Conservapedia is an educational resource, while Wikipedia is not. We don't want 3 million users because quality inevitably declines, as it has on Wikipedia. Bias would also inevitably increase. We don't believe in direct democracy. We want a small number of users who contribute quality material. And evidently it has been used over 61,000 times, far more than one would expect merely from posting 2500 entries.
  • Reply Actually Wikipedia is an educational resource. just because they are biased and have alot of wasted space does not mean that they are not educational. Right now, they have way more educational material than Conservapedia. Actually, we do want 3 million users because that means that 3 million people are hearing things from the right perspective, our goal is to have people use the website. And, 61,000 is not far more than would be expected from 2500 entries. --TimSvendsen 19:14, 10 January 2007 (EST)

Finally, we do have 24 entries discussing World War II. Be sure to click "Search" not "Go" to find all the material. --Aschlafly 16:53, 10 January 2007 (EST)
  • Reply We have 24 entries that mention WWII, but we don't have an entry about WWII. --TimSvendsen 19:14, 10 January 2007 (EST)


Check this out.


I love the word "concise" irony at its best.

Page count

The stats page says:

There are 13,197 total pages in the database. This includes "talk" pages, pages about Conservapedia, minimal "stub" pages, redirects, and others that probably don't qualify as content pages. Excluding those, there are 5,181 pages that are probably legitimate content pages.

How do you reconcile the 1400 pages that you claim that this doesn't? --Mtur 01:03, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

Just a reminder... I'm still curious about where the number of 6,800 comes from when the stats page is suggesting 5,492. --Mtur 21:44, 6 April 2007 (EDT)


Well, that page will give all the Liberals something to make fun of here besides Creationism. Maybe it'll distract them for a few minutes... --BobD 01:51, 16 April 2007 (EDT)


I think that it actually said Ismail, whereas the Moby Dick character is spelled Ishmael. DanH 00:17, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

Ah, I see you got it. DanH 00:17, 19 April 2007 (EDT)


It seems that this page is frequently updated to reflect page views and the number of articles. Surely this could be automated by parsing the statistics? BrianCo 00:53, 21 May 2007 (EDT)


I put this on the main page:


We want you to create new articles! Please see our articles that need to be created here

Conservative 13:37, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

Now we start to brag.

Now we start to brag about our page views people!! Ha this is great!--Will N. 17:48, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Your telling me! This is awesome!--BethTalk 10:53, 5 July 2007 (EDT)