User talk:CraigF/1

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Please stick to the facts when adding to articles. Opinions on whether a given car is overpriced or not don't belong here; this is a fact-based encyclopedia.


--Benp 18:25, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

How is price not a fact? Ferrari's cost three times as much as some American performance cars and still get beaten on the track regularly? Craig F 18:26 August 16th 2011 (EDT)
Your edits are fine. Quit giving the new guy a hard time BenP - Jcw --Jpatt 18:36, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
Thanks Jpatt! Craig F 18:37 August 16th 2011 (EDT)
Price is a fact. Saying it's overpriced is opinion. --SeanS 18:38, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
Overprice isn't an opinion for sports cars. If a $30k car can beat a $120k car on the track it is obviously way overpriced. Craig F 18:39 August 16th 2011
That doesn't make it overpriced though. The word overpriced is covered in opinion and it's best to just avoid it completely. There is much more neutral ways to bring light to the fact Cheaper American Cars beat it.--SeanS 18:43, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
I looked it up in the dictionary [1] and found out that overpriced means worth less than the price charged. A track car's worth is it's speed so if a track car is more expensive and slower, it is obviously overpriced. I don't understand how something as objective as the fact that Ferraris are over priced is considered non neutral, lots of Ferrari fan boys might try to say that this is non neutral, but they don't want to face the facts. Craig F 18:45 August 16th 2011
Because there is slightly more to a Cars price then if it is a fast race car? Not everybody who uses a Ferrari does so for racing --SeanS 18:53, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
Ferraris are designed for racing the fact that some posers think driving a foreign car is cool doesn't mean anything. --CraigF 18:56, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
"Some posers think driving a foreign car is cool" You really didn't have to insult anybody, you know that right? Tbh, I don't feel like arguing about this with you so if you want to add it, go ahead. --SeanS 18:57, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
Hey if the glove fits... ok I'll add it back in. CraigF 4:00, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

A comment on your Userpage

Just a comment, but you should probably change the size of the flag so it doesn't stretch the page. Kinda internet Tacky bad formy-ness when images do that. --SeanS 23:04, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

You are probably right it is big. I'll change it.--23:07, 16 August 2011 (EDT)


When making a major edit like the one you did on the Henry Ford article, it's best to present your case on the talk page before editing/deleting/reverting. References from reliable sources that help support your arguments also are a very good idea. --SharonW 23:26, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

I think we have a misunderstanding

I don't doubt that he worked with nazis, that he did horrible things or that any of them can be justified. However, i don't accept the reasoning that working with somebody makes you one of them. Now if he actually joined the Nazi party, then i will say he was a nazi. IF he didn't, At best, you can call him a nazi affiliate.--SeanS 00:55, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

That works for me, but it doesn't remove the slander on the Henry Ford page. --CraigF 00:57, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
 :/ well, I don't have a simple solution for that one. Sorry.--SeanS 00:59, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

Best of luck

Hi. 1) If you have an issue with me, please post to my talk page, not another editor's. 2) I do know something about cars, and I also know what a well-referenced statement is. You appear to dislike both references and cars other than Ford, and your bias shows. The articles are stubs, and poorly researched, lacking such basic facts as when production began, factory locations, production numbers, etc. They read as poorly worded attack statements directed toward non-Ford vehicles. However, I don't see that changing, so the car articles are all yours. --SharonW 15:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)