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Peter

I redirected Peter into Saint Peter. The content of the Peter article had already been moved and merged into Saint Peter. Leopeo 10:11, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Protestant views of Saint Peter

Since the RCC got to put their view of Saint Peter, I was wondering if I could add some protestant criticisms to the last paragraph of this article?

-- RichardT^Talk 19:05, 9 September 2007 (EDT)

Paul Writting from Rome:

Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry.

2 Timothy 4:11

-- RichardT^Talk 19:18, 9 September 2007 (EDT)

As one who is a Protestant Richard, I'm not sure how this applies to Peter. Protestant theology usually doesn't tie in Paul's difficulties while under house arrest with Peter. Learn together 00:50, 10 September 2007 (EDT)

re: Peter

"Peter demonstrated the greatest faith in the history of the world, second only to Jesus and Mary."

That is incorrect. The Apostle Paul, who had the greatest zeal in the early church, outdid Peter in both faith and works (Missionary trips, New Testament letters, churches planted, etc). James said that I will show you my faith by my works and that faith without works is dead. Paul had greater works. Conservative 19:43, 3 July 2013 (EDT)

Paul never walked on water, cured people, or recognized immediately and initially that Jesus was the Christ. Paul's faith was immense, but Peter's faith was unsurpassed.--Andy Schlafly 00:14, 4 July 2013 (EDT)

Peter took a few steps on water, doubted, started to sink, was rescued by Jesus who upbraided him for his doubting and having little faith (Matthew 14: 29-31). You can't pick and choose the facts relating to this incident. Also, Peter and Andrew did drop their nets and immediately follow him in Matthew 4: 20. However, the Scripture does not clearly spell out that Peter had the revelation that Jesus was the Christ and the Son of the living God until Matthew 16:16. So you are incorrect to claim that Peter necessarily knew that Jesus was the Christ immediately. Also, in Matthew 16: 23, Jesus tells Peter who allowed Satan to speak through him, "Get behind me, Satan".

Second, Peter denied Christ three times and then had godly sorrow and repented unlike Judas who merely had regret. Paul never denied Christ once after his conversion.

Third, nobody in the first century Christendom can match the zeal of all out Paul nor can they match his accomplishments (number of churches planted in cities, writer of more books of the New Testament, etc). Again, James said, I will show you my faith by my works and true faith has works. Faith without works is dead. Nobody in first century Christendom surpassed the zeal of Paul in the amount of works performed. As far as Paul's zeal, see: 2 Corinthians 11: 23-29.

Fourth, you are incorrect about Paul never being involved in a healing. For example, Paul was involved in the supernatural curing of Publius' father of a serious fever on the Island of Malta (Acts 28:7-10). By the way, I realize that God does the healing and Paul was only a vessel that God used.

At the same time, Paul recognized that he was a servant of Christ and he did not want people to follow him (or Peter) but rather he wanted them to follow Christ (1 Corinthians 1:12-15). Conservative 03:24, 4 July 2013 (EDT)