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::But if the question is being asked to an atheist, obviously they will answer under their assumption that God does not exist. Their opponent is expected to understand this.
 
::But if the question is being asked to an atheist, obviously they will answer under their assumption that God does not exist. Their opponent is expected to understand this.
 
::The point of the leprechaun argument is that the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. You need to remember that Christianity isn't the only religion in the world. What's so special about ''your'' book saying that your own guy in the cloud is real? This isn't ''proof'' against Christianity, but it does prove that the Bible isn't sufficient evidence for Christianity. In the language of pure mathematics and probability theory, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Therefore atheism (the ''absence'' of a god) is the default worldview until there is more evidence.
 
::The point of the leprechaun argument is that the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. You need to remember that Christianity isn't the only religion in the world. What's so special about ''your'' book saying that your own guy in the cloud is real? This isn't ''proof'' against Christianity, but it does prove that the Bible isn't sufficient evidence for Christianity. In the language of pure mathematics and probability theory, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Therefore atheism (the ''absence'' of a god) is the default worldview until there is more evidence.
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:::Obviously? You didn't show it was obvious. See: [[Atheists doubting the validity of atheism]] and [[Denials that atheists exist]]  
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:::"Obviously they will answer under their assumption that God does not exist?"  You didn't show it was obvious. See: [[Atheists doubting the validity of atheism]] and [[Denials that atheists exist]]  
  
 
:::Secondly, I am aware that Christianity isn't the only religion in the world. See: [[Atheism is a religion]].  However, unlike the religion of atheism which has a total lack of proof and evidence that it is true, Christianity has an abundance of proof and evidence that it is true. See: [[Christian apologetics websites|Evidence for Christianity]].  
 
:::Secondly, I am aware that Christianity isn't the only religion in the world. See: [[Atheism is a religion]].  However, unlike the religion of atheism which has a total lack of proof and evidence that it is true, Christianity has an abundance of proof and evidence that it is true. See: [[Christian apologetics websites|Evidence for Christianity]].  
  
 
:::Thirdly, using the definition of atheism that encyclopedias of philosophy use for the word atheism (see: Attempts to dilute the definition of atheism]]), please provide us proof and evidence that atheism is true? 19:38, 8 March 2015 (EDT)
 
:::Thirdly, using the definition of atheism that encyclopedias of philosophy use for the word atheism (see: Attempts to dilute the definition of atheism]]), please provide us proof and evidence that atheism is true? 19:38, 8 March 2015 (EDT)

Revision as of 23:39, March 8, 2015

Hey Conservative, I think the page/article could do with a bit better formatting. I think that maybe each of the individual section/areas in which you wrote about Atheist Hypocrisy could/should be a separate section. I also believe having the HERE, HERE and HERE isn't really something that should be in an article as it looks a wee bit unprofessional. Nice article though. In Jesus, PennyS PennyS 08:00, 6 August 2013 (EDT)

Thanks for the input on the formatting. I took your suggestion. Conservative 12:02, 6 August 2013 (EDT)
Nice article but I think a new title would suit it better, perhaps atheism and poor lifestyle choices. An obese or sexist atheist is not so much a hypocrite but more of a product of his poor lifestyle as a result of his atheism. What do you think?--JerryCa 15:18, 6 January 2014 (EST)

Quickness to hate God

I removed the following section:

In debates with atheists, the popular YouTube video maker Shockofgod often asks atheists, "Is God evil?". Invariably, so-called atheists quickly say yes. Then Shockofgod informs the "atheist" that they admitted that God exists. Shockofgod also declares that he never heard anyone accuse leprechauns of being evil.

My reasoning, as stated in the edit summary, was "leprechauns aren't evil, but Voldemort is, and he doesn't exist", the point being that something doesn't need to exist for you to describe it. Why, then, was my edit undone?

Voldemort cannot be evil because he doesn't exist. "Nothing" cannot be evil. The fictional character Voldemort can only be portrayed as evil.
By the way, if a main justification for your worldview is the "leprechaun objection", it is time to abandon your worldview. Atheism is madness! Conservative 16:05, 8 March 2015 (EDT)
But if the question is being asked to an atheist, obviously they will answer under their assumption that God does not exist. Their opponent is expected to understand this.
The point of the leprechaun argument is that the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. You need to remember that Christianity isn't the only religion in the world. What's so special about your book saying that your own guy in the cloud is real? This isn't proof against Christianity, but it does prove that the Bible isn't sufficient evidence for Christianity. In the language of pure mathematics and probability theory, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Therefore atheism (the absence of a god) is the default worldview until there is more evidence.
"Obviously they will answer under their assumption that God does not exist?" You didn't show it was obvious. See: Atheists doubting the validity of atheism and Denials that atheists exist
Secondly, I am aware that Christianity isn't the only religion in the world. See: Atheism is a religion. However, unlike the religion of atheism which has a total lack of proof and evidence that it is true, Christianity has an abundance of proof and evidence that it is true. See: Evidence for Christianity.
Thirdly, using the definition of atheism that encyclopedias of philosophy use for the word atheism (see: Attempts to dilute the definition of atheism]]), please provide us proof and evidence that atheism is true? 19:38, 8 March 2015 (EDT)