Talk:Atheistic science

First, what are "non-materialistic phenomena"? Second, black holes most certainly exist. Cygnus X-1 and Sagittarius A* are examples. QuantumDude (talk) 00:16, 8 February 2016 (EST)

Black holes are an implausible fiction of atheistic science. They help sell atheistic pseudo-scientific magazines to the public. They are contrary to quantum mechanics and are one of the Counterexamples to Relativity.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 10:00, 8 February 2016 (EST)

Black holes are demonstrated to exist though, Cygnus X-1 is a known black hole, along with many others, and relativity is known to be more accurate for celestial bodies than Newtonian physics. I don't understand where "atheism" comes into the picture for any of this? QuantumDude (talk) 10:06, 8 February 2016 (EST)

QuantumDude, "Last week, famed physicist Stephen Hawking made headlines with this bold statement: 'there are no black holes.'". - PBS, 2014[1]

Second, you wrote: "First, what are 'non-materialistic phenomena'?" I believe you know what was meant by this phrase and you are just being difficult.

Lastly, I am not going to comment on other matters related to this article or talk page and merely wanted to make these two points. Conservative (talk) 11:09, 8 February 2016 (EST)

I genuinely do NOT know what "non-materialistic phenomena" are, as I've never actually heard the term before, jeez. QuantumDude (talk) 11:31, 8 February 2016 (EST)

Also, if you read the article which you just linked it specifically says black holes have been observed for decades and that Hawking is NOT saying black holes do not exist. QuantumDude (talk) 11:34, 8 February 2016 (EST)

QuantumDude, you continue to be purposefully difficult. Non-materialistic phenomena are phenomena which are not materialistic/natural. Not exactly rocket science. Are you going to tell me next that you never heard the words miracle/supernatural?

The point in citing the quote/article was to point out that how you define a black hole is an issue. Conservative (talk) 12:18, 8 February 2016 (EST)

See points 1 and 6 in Counterexamples to Relativity. Also, "non-materialistic phenomena" are the very real things that cannot be explained by material science, such as migration.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 12:16, 8 February 2016 (EST)

By the way, QunatumDude, if you are an atheist, I have a question for you: "Why don't you join a barter exchange and ask members of the barter exchange if they want to barter with you and you will give them "dark matter" in exchange for various goods/services. :) Conservative (talk) 12:25, 8 February 2016 (EST)