Difference between revisions of "Debate:Is creation science scientific?"

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::Ok, I think I see what you mean, but concentrating on the [[starlight problem]], it doesn't make any predictions other than what it's trying to explain. So how is that valid?
 
::Ok, I think I see what you mean, but concentrating on the [[starlight problem]], it doesn't make any predictions other than what it's trying to explain. So how is that valid?
 
[[User:PeterHockey|PeterHockey]] 11:08, 5 September 2016 (EDT)
 
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:::I think it is important when resolving questions to not have a myopic focus. In deciding an issue, it is important to utilize the principle of using the total evidence (see: [[fallacy of exclusion]]).  
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:::I think it is important when resolving questions to not have a myopic focus. In deciding an issue, it is important to utilize the principle of using the total evidence (see: [[fallacy of exclusion]]). When you compare the biblical worldview with the liberal Christianity/theology worldview and the atheist/agnostic worldviews which typically have evolution as one of their tenets, the biblical worldview comes out on top (see: [[Christian apologetics websites|Evidence for Christianity]]).  
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When you compare the biblical worldview with the liberal Christianity/theology worldview and the atheist/agnostic worldviews which typically have evolution as one of their tenets, the biblical worldview comes out on top (see: [[Christian apologetics websites|Evidence for Christianity]]).  
 
  
 
:::The starlight issue is one of the cloudier areas. For example, the big bang model has a starlight problem called the horizon problem (See: http://creation.com/light-travel-time-a-problem-for-the-big-bang ). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:49, 5 September 2016 (EDT)
 
:::The starlight issue is one of the cloudier areas. For example, the big bang model has a starlight problem called the horizon problem (See: http://creation.com/light-travel-time-a-problem-for-the-big-bang ). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:49, 5 September 2016 (EDT)

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By this I mean "is creation science falsifiable?" I was reading about the starlight problem and the solution according to creation science is that God created the light in transit. While this seems plausible, it doesn't seem like something that an experiment can be devised to test this claim. Hence it is not falsifiable. Of course if it were possible to disprove the existence of God, then it would be falsifiable, but that isn't possible. Any thoughts? PeterHockey 09:24, 5 September 2016 (EDT)

Origins science is a historical science and not operational science. It is like archaeology. See: http://creation.com/origins-vs-operational-science
However, the biblical creation model makes certain predictions which the evidence very strongly suggests are true. For example, the universe had a beginning, big gulf between life and non-life [1], large gulf between man an animals (For example, no animal orchestras), no life on other planets has ever been found is a reasonable inference of the biblical model [2] whereas the evolutionist SETI project as an expensive failure and they are getting desperate now [3], etc. etc. etc. Conservative (talk) 10:24, 5 September 2016 (EDT)
Ok, I think I see what you mean, but concentrating on the starlight problem, it doesn't make any predictions other than what it's trying to explain. So how is that valid?

PeterHockey 11:08, 5 September 2016 (EDT)

I think it is important when resolving questions to not have a myopic focus. In deciding an issue, it is important to utilize the principle of using the total evidence (see: fallacy of exclusion). When you compare the biblical worldview with the liberal Christianity/theology worldview and the atheist/agnostic worldviews which typically have evolution as one of their tenets, the biblical worldview comes out on top (see: Evidence for Christianity).
The starlight issue is one of the cloudier areas. For example, the big bang model has a starlight problem called the horizon problem (See: http://creation.com/light-travel-time-a-problem-for-the-big-bang ). Conservative (talk) 12:49, 5 September 2016 (EDT)