Talk:Jair Bolsonaro

It's funny to read Dilma Rousseff labeled "Marxist", since in the 13 years of her party's misgovernment the only ones who profited were the dozen or so of the most rich people in Brazil. If "left" is governing for the people and "right" for the rich (which it isn't, but that's how leftists think about themselves), then Dilma and Lula were extreme-extreme-extreme-right. Sunda62 (talk) 11:25, 14 May 2016 (EDT)

But this is the argument that the left uses to say they have no blame of the shit that PT did in Brazil: say the party is on the right because governed for the rich, which the left has always done since born. All that Dilma did makes she's more Marxist and fascist.--Renan Jackson (talk) 11:56, 4 June 2016 (EDT)

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Very good read on Bolsanaro. Recommended! RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 16:50, 9 October 2018 (EDT)

Unrelated to the above, this article might be helpful when looking at who Bolsonaro chooses for his cabinet: [1] --1990'sguy (talk) 00:02, 30 October 2018 (EDT)

Pssst, Rumor is, Bolsanaro is going to force regime change in Venezuela so the U.S. doesn't dirty its hands. Keep it on the down low. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 19:24, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

And another heads up: I'd be careful about marrying Bolsanaro too close to Trump, IMO. You may have to walk it all back at some point. Brazilian politics are notoriously corrupt. Right now, Brazil is cashing in big time on trade deals with China after Trump's tariffs. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 13:52, 5 November 2018 (EST)

Good point. If Bolsonaro does shift, we should still note that he held conservative positions prior to his election and hold him accountable. --1990'sguy (talk) 15:57, 5 November 2018 (EST)

It's the critics that call him the Brazilian Trump, which is a code word for him being racist. It has little to do with his conservative or ringwing associations. He's largely regarded by them as a brainless boob and front man for the corrupt powers that be. According to this article, "more than half of senators and one third of Congress are facing criminal investigations." The article also claims the real power center remains the Brazilian military.

Sure, the article is written by a longtime leftwing Brazilian journalist, however the editors of consortiumnews are among the best in reporting on intelligence matters. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 17:41, 5 November 2018 (EST)

Unlike Trump, Bolsonaro is not a man of independent wealth. He is indeed the front man for traditional ruling circles. While the US & Brazil may see eye to eye on Venezuela, it remains to be seen cooperation on China. Brazil is picking up many of the trade contracts dropped due to tariffs. That income to China fuels the Chinese military build-up. If Boldonaro agrees with Trump on restricting Chinese inports, than a closer association between Trump and Boldonaro can be made. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!}