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:::::In today's world, it would be the same as calling Google and Microsoft operations in China "U.S. property." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:33, 21 February 2021 (EST) | :::::In today's world, it would be the same as calling Google and Microsoft operations in China "U.S. property." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:33, 21 February 2021 (EST) | ||
| − | :::::When ITT lost its | + | :::::When ITT lost its $2 billion investment in Cuba to Castro, it had no recourse to Cuban courts. In the U.S., where ATT was a big employer and taxpayers at all levels of government, it could win an unenforceable judgement against Cuba, but that wasn't enough. Hence the Hickenlooper Amendment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]]</sup> 14:37, 21 February 2021 (EST) |
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Hickenlooper amendment
So from what I'm reading, Hickenlooper proposed an amendment to the 1962 Foreign Assistance Act that would have ended foreign aid to any country expropriating U.S. property. [1] According to WP, it was defeated with a 35–45 tally [2], though from what I found on GovTrack, it says that it had been a 40–45 vote... [3] —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Sunday, 14:02, 21 February 2021 (EST)
- Sounds like this is directly related to the Cuban government under Castro seizing the phone company, ITT property. RobSFree Kyle! 14:12, 21 February 2021 (EST)
- (Note: you should be clear on the distinction between "U.S. government property" and property of U.S. citizens and corporations. The contemporaneous reports of that "pre-globalist" era are loaded with ambiguities, referring to private property as "U.S. property"). RobSFree Kyle! 14:15, 21 February 2021 (EST)
- Yeah, the amendment was particularly related to targeting Castro. —
LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Sunday, 14:19, 21 February 2021 (EST) So was "U.S. property" referring specifically to federal government property? —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Sunday, 14:21, 21 February 2021 (EST)
- Yeah, the amendment was particularly related to targeting Castro. —
- (ec) So it is not really "U.S. property"; it is property of U.S. citizens, corporations, and taxpayers subject to jurisdiction of U.S. courts. This is how, in an age of a peacetime military draft, the military-industrial complex could brainwash young people to die for U.S. global corporate interests by calling private property "U.S. property".
- ATT is American Telephone and Telegraph; ITT is International Telephone and Telegraph, ATT"s global parent, although the term "globalism" wasn't even in currency yet. RobSFree Kyle! 14:28, 21 February 2021 (EST)
- Ah, I see. —
LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Sunday, 14:31, 21 February 2021 (EST)
- Ah, I see. —
- The term "U.S. property", from World War II and throughout the Cold War, is very much a collectivist nationalist term.
- In today's world, it would be the same as calling Google and Microsoft operations in China "U.S. property." RobSFree Kyle! 14:33, 21 February 2021 (EST)
- When ITT lost its $2 billion investment in Cuba to Castro, it had no recourse to Cuban courts. In the U.S., where ATT was a big employer and taxpayers at all levels of government, it could win an unenforceable judgement against Cuba, but that wasn't enough. Hence the Hickenlooper Amendment. RobSFree Kyle! 14:37, 21 February 2021 (EST)