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:If you do a Google search on the word Administrator you get this: [https://www.google.com/search?q=administrator&oq=administrator&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDAgAEEUYORixAxiABDIKCAEQABixAxiABDIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIGCAcQRRhB0gEINDYyMmoxajSoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Administrator - Google search]. It does appear that an administrator can be likened to a manager in some contexts. | :If you do a Google search on the word Administrator you get this: [https://www.google.com/search?q=administrator&oq=administrator&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyDAgAEEUYORixAxiABDIKCAEQABixAxiABDIHCAIQABiABDIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIGCAcQRRhB0gEINDYyMmoxajSoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Administrator - Google search]. It does appear that an administrator can be likened to a manager in some contexts. | ||
| − | :Also, there is a difference between a manager and a leader and here is a Google search: [https://www.google.com/search?q=managers+vs.+leaders&sca_esv=577466851&ei=UTg9ZcGxEcWIxc8PtPe0MA&ved=0ahUKEwiBntmklpmCAxVFRPEDHbQ7DQYQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=managers+vs.+leaders&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgCIhRtYW5hZ2VycyB2cy4gbGVhZGVyczIIEAAYigUYkQIyBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB5IxEBQ7wpYiTVwA3gBkAEAmAH-AaAB0gOqAQMyLTK4AQPIAQD4AQHCAg4QABiKBRiwAxiRAhiLA8ICDRAAGEcY1gQYsAMYiwPCAgcQABiKBRhDwgIFEAAYgATiAwQYACBBiAYBkAYK&sclient=gws-wiz-serp Managers vs. leaders]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:38, October 28, 2023 (EDT) | + | :Also, there is a difference between a manager and a leader and here is a Google search: [https://www.google.com/search?q=managers+vs.+leaders&sca_esv=577466851&ei=UTg9ZcGxEcWIxc8PtPe0MA&ved=0ahUKEwiBntmklpmCAxVFRPEDHbQ7DQYQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=managers+vs.+leaders&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgCIhRtYW5hZ2VycyB2cy4gbGVhZGVyczIIEAAYigUYkQIyBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB4yBBAAGB5IxEBQ7wpYiTVwA3gBkAEAmAH-AaAB0gOqAQMyLTK4AQPIAQD4AQHCAg4QABiKBRiwAxiRAhiLA8ICDRAAGEcY1gQYsAMYiwPCAgcQABiKBRhDwgIFEAAYgATiAwQYACBBiAYBkAYK&sclient=gws-wiz-serp Managers vs. leaders - Google search]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:38, October 28, 2023 (EDT) |
===Motion=== | ===Motion=== | ||
Revision as of 17:10, October 28, 2023
"The Squad" may not have been the best choice of words. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:13, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- We are reclaiming the title. AOC does not own the exclusive rights to being called a squad, and we need to remind her of that fact. MayGodBless (talk) 12:15, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- I dunno. Seems pretty lame. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:16, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- How about CP Goon Squad? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:17, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- It would actually be easier to make a counter proposal for alternative language at Team CP, ifd you really intend to promote cooperative editing. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:19, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
Contradiction
- We agree that holding administrator privileges does not make you a "leader" of CP.
- We recognize that Andy Schlafly is the leader of this website
Given that Andy Schlafly is the recognized leader of the site and appoints administrators, this appears to be a direct challenge to his leadership. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:30, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- If you do a Google search on the word Administrator you get this: Administrator - Google search. It does appear that an administrator can be likened to a manager in some contexts.
- Also, there is a difference between a manager and a leader and here is a Google search: Managers vs. leaders - Google search. Conservative (talk) 12:38, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
Motion
Move to strike the language, "We agree that holding administrator privileges does not make you a "leader" of CP." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:31, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- Oppose per User:Conservative's explanation above. MayGodBless (talk) 12:47, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- I don't see where User:Conservative opposes the contradiction in wording. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:48, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- Admins are managers. They are not leaders. MayGodBless (talk) 13:05, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- Oppose. Administrators/managers are not leaders. Conservative (talk) 13:07, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
"everyone here in good faith"
Including sockpuppets? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:57, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- Sockpuppets are not here in good faith. MayGodBless (talk) 13:03, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- So that is a judgement call? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:06, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- I am not sure what you mean. MayGodBless (talk) 13:07, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- So that is a judgement call? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:06, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
"we will criticize fellow conservatives when they deserve to be criticized"
Alternative language: "we will criticize fellow conservatives when they deserve to be criticized within the bounds of CP Guidelines." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:57, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- I have updated the sentence. MayGodBless (talk) 13:04, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
- Without reference to CP Guidelines, you are saying that both Trump and Biden have to be criticized in good faith, but leaving open the most vile abuse toward other CP editors beyond CP Guidelines. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:08, October 28, 2023 (EDT)