Difference between revisions of "Talk:Intelligence testing"

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"why different races or cultural groups have significantly different scores" This is attempting to be an encyclopedia, and when discussing science the word 'significantly' should not be used lightly. user:stevendavy

Many have ascribed such differences to the cultural bias of the tests [1].

I take it cultural bias in intelligence test is a myth [2]. Sorry for being misinformed. BillyBoy 08:42, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

You are not misinformed (the claims are well-known). I would just rather we provided a balanced and well-organized treatment. I have spent a lot of time helping to develop Wikipedia's race and intelligence article series, with a stress on objectivity, impartiality, and balance.

I would attribute this claim to Adrian Dove and also explain a bit more about why anyone would want to ascribe the difference in scores to vocabulary or to knowledge of inner-city life. --Ed Poor 08:46, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

• In the fall of 1994, the publication of Hermstein and Murray's book The Bell Curve sparked a new round of debate about the meaning of intelligence test scores and the nature of intelligence. The debate was characterized by strong assertions as well as by strong feelings. Unfortunately, those assertions often revealed serious misunderstandings of what has (and has not) been demonstrated by scientific research in this field. Although a great deal is now known, the issues remain complex and in many cases still unresolved. Another unfortunate aspect of the debate was that many participants made little effort to distinguish scientific issues from. political ones, Research findings were often assessed not so much on their merits or their scientific standing as on their supposed political implications. (Stalking the Wild Taboo)

Thanks for the answer. You mentioned Wikipedia's race and intelligence article series, with a stress on objectivity, impartiality, and balance. Isn't the object of Conservapedia to avoid that kind of wikipedian liberal bias?

BillyBoy 08:58, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

The irony of you tarring everyone with one brush ...

That particular article series is well-done. I had a lot to do with it. "Impartiality" is not liberal bias. Pretending to be impartial while cherry-picking sources that support your own POV is the problem. --Ed Poor 09:07, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

Wikipedia's bias

I've tidied up the Wikipedia articles several times, but I saw today that the old liberal bias has crept back again. Jensen and also The Bell Curve are vilified, and Gould's POV is exalted. Gould puts words into others' mouths, and Wikipedia lets him get away with it. (I guess evolutionists like Gould can do no wrong, and conservatives can do no right, eh?) --Ed Poor ^Talk 13:33, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

At some time I tried to fix Wikipedia article providing references to the relevant works of the real scientific research but all got removed so that cannot even find in edit history. If there is any single article in Wikipedia that provides clearly false, misleading and biased information, backed up only by the supporting team watching the edits, then this one article it is. H22 (talk) 16:04, 16 October 2016 (EDT)

Intelligence testing

User:Conservative: You ever pass one of these? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:25, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

Intelligent tests are not pass/fail. They assess a person on a continuum. Personal remark removed Conservative (talk) 16:43, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

Ok, thanks. You sure intelligence tests aren't pass/fail? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:49, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

P.S. All an IQ of 126 means is a 13 year old could get a C average doing the academic work of a 15 year old. Beyond age 15 and half, IQ doesn't really make any sense anymore (yah, I'm talking to you, Mr. Statisical Analysis). BTW, how's that application to join a Mensa meet up for a rendezvous with a bunch of childless adults, mostly men (more than 75%), who narcissistically believe they're smarter than rest of us going? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 16:57, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

Hello? How's that Mensa app coming? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 18:10, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

Why are you obsessed with me? Given that you don't engage in relevant argumentation and try to bring up irrelevancies, I have no interest in what you have to say. But that is on you, not me. Conservative (talk) 19:44, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

Not you, I'm obsessed with stupidity. I'm on a crusade to rid stupidity from the face of the earth. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 19:47, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

You definitely are obsessed with me. And I am not the only one to see it. Now if you want to have a real discussion, use my mailbox. Don't clutter talk pages with irrelevancies. Conservative (talk) 19:49, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

Don't flatter yourself. It's a symptom of narcissistic personality disorder. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 20:24, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

Did you know Americans are more stupid than North Koreans?

Australia's national IQ is 98.^[1] The Daily Mail reported in 2014, "Evidence suggests that the IQs of people in the UK, Denmark and Australia have declined in the last decade."^[2] See: Intelligence trends in secular countries

[3] RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 22:34, January 4, 2025 (EST)

I think this whole page is just another vindictive trolling attack against one of User:Conservative's personal enemies, using supposed "facts" & "research", in this case against AceMcWicked of Australia.

Conservapedia is rife with dozens, if not hundreds, of mainspace articles and Essays of bogus pseudoscience and research motivated by vendettas against User:Conservative's personal "enemies", as he calls them. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:37, January 4, 2025 (EST)

We've seen this before in User:Conservative's editing, in addition to his dime store psychoanalysis: User:Conservative believes that by attacking a country his "enemies" are from or he deems sympathetic to, in his corrupted mind he believes he is scoring points or "winning" an argument, when in fact it's just deep-seated racism, an underlying belief of superiority in himself and his country, and a corrupted system of moral values. RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:54, January 4, 2025 (EST)

Perhaps the falling IQs of the people of the UK, Denmark, and Australia explains why their governments want to make war against the Russian Federation? RobS^{The Truth. Just Putin It Out There} 23:45, January 4, 2025 (EST)

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