Talk:Debate:Has Russia reinstalled stealth communism?

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as america we love democracy right? we wage war for it, wilson stated durring ww1 that we need to protect democracy, we calim to "spread" democracy in iraq. putin was elected by the russian people, and the communist part makes up 25% of the russian parliment(acording to the financial times world desk refrence) if the people are looking to move in a more socialst direction, who are we to stop them? the only call for any action would be if russia started to invade other coutries, and then we should only do it through the u.n.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Americaman (talk)

Are you familiar with Chechnya? And no, the communist party only holds 12% of the duma. Bohdan 19:23, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

to begin with, chechnya is russian land, it has been russian sence the times of the tzars of russia(conqured when looking land for warm water ports) its not much more different than our civil war i supose, but are you trying to tell me we should get involved in a civil war? of wait we are in a civil war in iraq.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Americaman (talk)

No, Chechnya is not "Russian land". It was conquered in the eighteen hundreds. I guess you really like imperialism. Funny you criticise our involvment in Iraq. Do you know anything about the situation in Georgia? (by the way, your above comment makes very little sense)Bohdan 21:31, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

• we should only do it through the u.n

I was just reading some stuff this morning about how the UN is a commie orgainzation created by commies for commies that only employs commies. [1] RobS 21:06, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

what? a commie organization? you are aware that the u.n was created in part moslty by the united states and our western capitolist allies. its even based on the leauge of nations which was an all american idea.--Americaman 21:15, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

Look at the intro paragraph :

CHAPTER NINE: THE HOME TEAM

In 1950 the State Department issued a volume entitled Postwar Foreign Policy Preparation, 1939-45. It described in detail the policies and documents leading up to the creation of the United Nations and named the men who shaped these policies. This and similar official records reveal that the following men were key government figures in UN planning within the U.S. State Department and Treasury Department: Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Virginius Frank Coe, Dean Acheson, Noel Field, Laurence Duggan, Henry Julian Wadleigh, John Carter Vincent, David Weintraub, Nathan Gregory Silvermaster, Harold Glasser, Victor Perlo, Irving Kaplan, Solomon Adler, Abraham George Silverman, William L. Ullman and William H. Taylor. With the single exception of Dean Acheson, all of these men have since been identified in sworn testimony as secret Communist agents!

Comment: Odd, this book was written decades before Venona documents were declassified. And the John Carter Vincent article we haven't written yet, but its coming soon. RobS 21:23, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

so yea, mcarthy and the red scare, that proved to be all correct right, or was he just a nut looking to scare people? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Americaman (talk)

As the cite says, Postwar Foreign Policy Preparation, 1939-45. This was long before McCarthy. RobS 21:48, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

impossible

ok, you have me beat, there were people from the united states who have been a part of forming of the u.n who had implimented by people to be part of communism( which i remind you is not a crime in this country), but that still does not make the u.n communist, the u.n actually helped keep the cold war only a cold war, it gave a place for both the u.s and the soviet union to air out problems, how can you dislike the u.n? it does great things for the world, for people,you have some rediculouse notion that the u.n is bad, maybe from fear that it is taking away our soverignty? we need to work with the u.n, it does have the power to heavy damage to the u.s(that does not make it anti-america or communist) working with the u.n helps prevent war,working with it can realy only bring good, no harm

Russia never had "stealth" communism before - they had an overt system of psuedo-communism. As they never had stealth communism in the past, Russia is unable to reinstall it, whatever it is. --LiteratiChamp 19:31, 19 July 2007 (EDT)