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| + | <center><big>'''''Beware Sen. Craig, you now may be the target of McCarthysque withchunts.''''' </big><ref>Testimony of Dimitri Varley, Executive Session of the Senate Permanent Committee on Investigations, Eighty-third Congress, U. S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D. C., Septermber 15, 1953, [http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/06amay20030700/www.gpo.gov/congress/senate/mccarthy/83871.html Vol. 3, pg. 1833].</ref></center> | ||
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| + | Mr. Cohn. Isn’t it a fact—I regret the necessity of going into this again—but isn’t it a fact that you were found by members of the New York City Police Department in the men’s room and 50-something Street and Lexington Avenue on December 29, 1941, arrested on a morals charge, and that you plead guilty and paid the fines, or you were given an alternative of a fine or jail sentence and you paid the fines, not only for yourself but for the other man who was taken in along with you, name Leonardo Boronek? Isn’t that a fact? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. Would you give me the question? | ||
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| + | [Whereupon, the last question was read by the reporter.] | ||
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| + | Mr. Cohn. Before you get to that, would you please add this, Mr. Stenographer: the names of the policemen were Valetine Piccitrilli and William Vogel. Now, would you answer that question? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varly. This is not a fact. | ||
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| + | Mr. Cohn. Tell me where it isn’t a fact. | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. I was never arrested, and I was never convicted on a morals charge. | ||
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| + | Mr. Cohn. Tell us what happened. | ||
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| + | The CHAIRMAN. Were you picked up by the policemen? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. The policemen did talk to me, but I was not arrested. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. Did they take you along with them? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley The policemen told me that— | ||
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| + | The Chairman. Did they take you along with them? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. No, they didn’t. The policemen told me, as I recollect it, that after we had very brief discussion, “Let the magistrate’s court figure that out,” words to that effect. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. Did they take you down to the magistrate? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. We went to the magistrate’s court, all together. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. The policemen picked you up, they took you down to the magistrate; is that right? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. He didn’t pick me up. He said that “Well, let all of us go to the magistrate court.” | ||
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| + | The Chairman. All right. When I say “picked you up,” what do you understand that I mean? | ||
| + | You said he didn’t pick you up. What do you think it means to get picked up? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. That the counsel says, to be arrested. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. And the policeman came in and took you to the magistrate; is that right? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. He said, “Let’s go to the magistrate.” He didn’t say, “You are arrested.” I didn’t resist— | ||
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| + | The Chairman. Did he take you down in a police car? Did they take you down in a police car? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. I think it was an ordinary automobile. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. They took you down in their car, did they? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. We went in their car. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. All right. They took you to the magistrate? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. We went down to the magistrate’s court. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. They took you in their car to the magistrate, is that correct? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. May I say how I remember what happened? | ||
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| + | The Chairman. No, you answer my questions. I may say that if the policeman’s testimony is correct, you perjured yourself about three times now. You can keep on if you want to, or you can tell us the truth. | ||
| + | I will repeat the question: Did they take you in their car to the magistrate? Either yes or no? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. Yes. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. They did, all right. Did they file charges against you? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. Yes, there was a summons by a policeman. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. All right. And were you found guilty? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. I pleaded guilty. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. You pleaded guilty? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. Yes. | ||
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| + | The Chaiman. You paid a fine? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. I paid a fine. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. And did you pay the other man’s fine, too? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. I did. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. You say you were never arrested? | ||
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| + | Mr. Varley. Yes, sir. | ||
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| + | The Chairman. Mr. Cohn, I want this transmitted to the U.S. attorney, a clear case of perjury. | ||
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Wherefore, holy brethren
...consider... (Heb. 3:1)
Mr. Cohn. Isn’t it a fact—I regret the necessity of going into this again—but isn’t it a fact that you were found by members of the New York City Police Department in the men’s room and 50-something Street and Lexington Avenue on December 29, 1941, arrested on a morals charge, and that you plead guilty and paid the fines, or you were given an alternative of a fine or jail sentence and you paid the fines, not only for yourself but for the other man who was taken in along with you, name Leonardo Boronek? Isn’t that a fact?
Mr. Varley. Would you give me the question?
[Whereupon, the last question was read by the reporter.]
Mr. Cohn. Before you get to that, would you please add this, Mr. Stenographer: the names of the policemen were Valetine Piccitrilli and William Vogel. Now, would you answer that question?
Mr. Varly. This is not a fact.
Mr. Cohn. Tell me where it isn’t a fact.
Mr. Varley. I was never arrested, and I was never convicted on a morals charge.
Mr. Cohn. Tell us what happened.
The CHAIRMAN. Were you picked up by the policemen?
Mr. Varley. The policemen did talk to me, but I was not arrested.
The Chairman. Did they take you along with them?
Mr. Varley The policemen told me that—
The Chairman. Did they take you along with them?
Mr. Varley. No, they didn’t. The policemen told me, as I recollect it, that after we had very brief discussion, “Let the magistrate’s court figure that out,” words to that effect.
The Chairman. Did they take you down to the magistrate?
Mr. Varley. We went to the magistrate’s court, all together.
The Chairman. The policemen picked you up, they took you down to the magistrate; is that right?
Mr. Varley. He didn’t pick me up. He said that “Well, let all of us go to the magistrate court.”
The Chairman. All right. When I say “picked you up,” what do you understand that I mean? You said he didn’t pick you up. What do you think it means to get picked up?
Mr. Varley. That the counsel says, to be arrested.
The Chairman. And the policeman came in and took you to the magistrate; is that right?
Mr. Varley. He said, “Let’s go to the magistrate.” He didn’t say, “You are arrested.” I didn’t resist—
The Chairman. Did he take you down in a police car? Did they take you down in a police car?
Mr. Varley. I think it was an ordinary automobile.
The Chairman. They took you down in their car, did they?
Mr. Varley. We went in their car.
The Chairman. All right. They took you to the magistrate?
Mr. Varley. We went down to the magistrate’s court.
The Chairman. They took you in their car to the magistrate, is that correct?
Mr. Varley. May I say how I remember what happened?
The Chairman. No, you answer my questions. I may say that if the policeman’s testimony is correct, you perjured yourself about three times now. You can keep on if you want to, or you can tell us the truth. I will repeat the question: Did they take you in their car to the magistrate? Either yes or no?
Mr. Varley. Yes.
The Chairman. They did, all right. Did they file charges against you?
Mr. Varley. Yes, there was a summons by a policeman.
The Chairman. All right. And were you found guilty?
Mr. Varley. I pleaded guilty.
The Chairman. You pleaded guilty?
Mr. Varley. Yes.
The Chaiman. You paid a fine?
Mr. Varley. I paid a fine.
The Chairman. And did you pay the other man’s fine, too?
Mr. Varley. I did.
The Chairman. You say you were never arrested?
Mr. Varley. Yes, sir.
The Chairman. Mr. Cohn, I want this transmitted to the U.S. attorney, a clear case of perjury.
References
- ↑ Testimony of Dimitri Varley, Executive Session of the Senate Permanent Committee on Investigations, Eighty-third Congress, U. S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D. C., Septermber 15, 1953, Vol. 3, pg. 1833.