Talk:Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies

Archive 1

Clean-up

This list is in need of major clean-up. Jinx McHue 13:06, 19 December 2009 (EST)

Please proceed as you suggest. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly 13:29, 19 December 2009 (EST)

Okay. I'll get to it when I have time after this weekend. Jinx McHue 11:00, 20 December 2009 (EST)

Here's an interesting article by Roger Ebert

Anyone agree with his choices? I don't want to add any unless people agree with them. JRobbe

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060105/EDITOR/60106001

Interesting article, The choices seem to be by someone else (Feder?), but the list is interesting. Feel free to add those that you think merit it. It's seems like a legitimate list, though I saw only one of the films mentioned.--Andy Schlafly 20:59, 5 January 2010 (EST)

You're right, my mistake, it was Don Feder who originally wrote the list. Coach Carter is the only one I've seen, and I definitely agree that it has a conservative message. I'll add it, and if anyone has any qualms please feel free to change it. Since I haven't seen the others, I'll let someone with more knowledge of the films determine if they qualify to be on this list. JRobbe

Oh, I see, that's Don Feder. We previously recognized him with an honorable mention in Essay:Conservatives of the Decade. All his choices are likely good. I can confirm that Feder is right about "Batman Begins," and I doubt Feder mishits on any of his choices.--Andy Schlafly 21:18, 5 January 2010 (EST)

Fargo

The directors are liberal (Cohen brothers), much sensationalized bloodshed and terror- some of the reasons I didn't know if this was fit for "Greatest". What say you?--Jpatt 00:53, 7 January 2010 (EST)

I disliked the movie intensely --it portrays our rural part of the world in very negative terms--and did not see much conservative about it. RJJensen 02:04, 7 January 2010 (EST)

Although Fargo is one of my favorite movies, I wouldn't say for a second that it's conservative. At the same time, I wouldn't argue that it's liberal. I don't see much of a political agenda in the film.JRobbe

Let's toss it then. Whoever recommended it can't even spell "pious". (Don't take that personally if the poster is legitimate!).--Andy Schlafly 18:51, 7 January 2010 (EST)

Pillow Talk?

How does a leading man slapping a leading lady square up any way with conservative values and chivalry? Tyrone 16:08, 17 January 2010 (EST)

A movie free of feminist thought-policing is on the list because ... conservatives do not support the feminist distortions. Understand it now?--Andy Schlafly 16:29, 17 January 2010 (EST)

No. On the chivalry page, you wrote that chivalry includes "men opening doors for women" and "protection of the weaker elements of society." [1] How does feminism have anything to do with the perceived conservative action of physically assaulting a woman? Tyrone 16:34, 17 January 2010 (EST)

I'm not sure I agree with it's inclusion, but for a different reason. The whole movie is basically about premarital sex. It's not as upfront about it as a modern film would be, but it's pretty obviously implied. Not to mention the cast: there's Dorris Day - isn't she a member of PETA? - and Rock Hudson (about whom nothing more has to be said.) Don't get me wrong, I rather like the movie, but I'm not sure if its themes are appropriate for "Greatest Conservative Movies." JacobB 17:26, 17 January 2010 (EST)

I doubt Hudson or Day wrote the script, which is what really counts. Any actor or actress could have filled those roles and Hudson and Day did not add anything significant. The script is anti-feminist, and no film can be made today like it. You make valid points about the sex but it is the anti-feminist nature of the movie that earns its consideration.--Andy Schlafly 17:51, 17 January 2010 (EST)

Dark Matter

Are there any sources for the claim that liberals first praised the movie, then panned it? If not, I'm going to toss that part out. JRobbe