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As defined by wikipedia, ''Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe''.<br/> | As defined by wikipedia, ''Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe''.<br/> | ||
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| + | Evolution can be and is empirically tested every day. Like astronomy, evolution relies primarily on observational data to form its theories. Those theories are tested by observing other parts of nature and seeing if the theory holds. It is also possible to experimentally demonstrate evolution. The Lenski experiments, well known on this site, are only one of the many experiments in which evolution has been demonstrated. | ||
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| + | If you want to falsify evolution in a way that scientists would accept, the easiest way would be to find an organism too complex to have evolved gradually, in other words, find and demonstrably prove that such an organism is "irreducibly complex," that previous forms of the animal could not have possibly survived. Attempts to do so using such characteristics as wings and eyes have failed, as the evolution of these traits are well understood, but it is possible, though I personally would wager that such a creature does not exist. [[User:RachelW|RachelW]] 09:06, 30 January 2012 (EST) | ||
==Question 7: Some great advantages are not very often seen== | ==Question 7: Some great advantages are not very often seen== | ||
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Question 1: How can a major mutation happen while transitional states are not viable ?
While eyes or wings are undoubtedly advantages, those evolutions did not happen in 1 generation. And, as it is often quoted, Evolution is blind. How 10% of an eye or 10% of a could have been be useful ?
- The transitional states ARE viable, and the eye is a very good example of that. The first "eye" was just a primitive patch of photosensitive cells on a creature's head that could tell light from dark. This became more complex, becoming a concave eye cup capable of telling the direction of light. Eventually, a clear covering for the eye cup developed to protect it. That clear coating played the role of a lens soon enough, and the eye became capable for the first time of resolving images.
The question should not be "What would you do with 10% of an eye?" Instead, ask "What would you do with an eye 10% as good as the one you've got! RachelW 08:37, 30 January 2012 (EST)
Question 2: How can speciation happen without geographic separation ?
- Geographic separation is the best way to get two groups of the same species to evolve differently from one another. However, any phenomenon which causes two groups to stop interbreeding can cause speciation. The term for it is sympatric speciation.RachelW 08:41, 30 January 2012 (EST)
Question 3: Who was the first Homo Sapiens ?
Was his father a homo sapiens as well ?
- There was no "first" Homo sapiens. Evolution does not work like that. Evolution works through gradual changes within a population over generations. The "boundary" of speciation is not a defined threshold. Rather, speciation occurs gradually as allele frequency and genomic structure changes subtly, within a population, from one generation to the next. --JHunter 00:01, 30 January 2012 (EST)
Question 4: How would an evolutionist define a specie ?
Is it even possible to do so ?
- Taxonomy is a human construct designed to make classifying animals easier. When two groups of animals can no longer interbreed, we usually call them different species, but the universe doesn't give a wet slap what we call animals, and indeed many "separate" species can interbreed to make hybrids. RachelW 08:44, 30 January 2012 (EST)
Question 5: How is Evolution more scientific than Creation ?
How isn't it a question of faith?
- Evolution was formalized by careful study of natural evidence, and not widely accepted as a valid theory until large amounts of supporting data were found, and the theory was altered and fleshed out, a process still continuing today. There is no part of the evolutionary theory that is not subject to question or debate, as long as the evidence for an argument can be presented. This is the scientific process, and the theory of evolution is one of humanity's crowning achievements in the sciences. There is no such thing as "evolutionary dogma."
Creationism uses as its primary source of information the vaguely worded and most likely metaphorical creation story in Genesis. Creationism explains nothing about how life developed, only that it was put here by means that could never be tested or verified. Central to creationist belief is the historical truth of the Genesis account, but since there exists no evidence that could prove or disprove a supernatural source of the first life on Earth, it is a position one must take on faith alone.
In other words, Evolution is a properly vetted scientific theory which can be tested, and Creationism is a religious position that does not attempt to explain specific evidence of the Earth's age or of the provenance of animals, relying instead on faith in the Genesis account.RachelW 08:56, 30 January 2012 (EST)
Question 6: Is evolution a science ?
As defined by wikipedia, Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.
Is is testable ? Can we do predictions over millions of years ? And finally, could the theory be falsified?
Evolution can be and is empirically tested every day. Like astronomy, evolution relies primarily on observational data to form its theories. Those theories are tested by observing other parts of nature and seeing if the theory holds. It is also possible to experimentally demonstrate evolution. The Lenski experiments, well known on this site, are only one of the many experiments in which evolution has been demonstrated.
If you want to falsify evolution in a way that scientists would accept, the easiest way would be to find an organism too complex to have evolved gradually, in other words, find and demonstrably prove that such an organism is "irreducibly complex," that previous forms of the animal could not have possibly survived. Attempts to do so using such characteristics as wings and eyes have failed, as the evolution of these traits are well understood, but it is possible, though I personally would wager that such a creature does not exist. RachelW 09:06, 30 January 2012 (EST)
Question 7: Some great advantages are not very often seen
Why is that we do not see many big-brain species, it seems to be a pretty good strategy.
Question 8: What is the evolutionary advantage of Art ?
Question 9: Is Evolution unfalsifiable ?
Question 10: Is Evolution exempt of the 2nd law of thermodynamics ?
The second law of thermodynamics states the entropy increases over time in a closed system. Evolution does not violate this. A common creationist misconception is that evolution absolutely requires new information. However, this is not always the case. A simple change to a number of already existing genes can bring about big changes to the organism. For example, tetrapod limbs are said to have evolved from fish fins. This was a change of already existing information, and not an increase in the amount of information. Therefore, not only is the accusation incorrect, but the accusation also works off of a strawman argument. --RedGoliath 13:57, 30 January 2012 (GMT)
The Second Law only applies to closed systems. The Earth is not a closed system. I really wish creationists wouldn't use this argument because it makes us look ignorant. --GeorgeLi 08:59, 30 January 2012 (EST)
Question 11: How would you explain self-destructive behavior ?
Smokers, drug addicts, alcohol drinkers should not survive and should not attract the opposite sex.
Question A: According to Evolution, degrading biodiversity does not matter
According to evolutionists, there has already been many great extinction followed by explosion of diversity. If so, It does not really matter if we degrade biodiversity, it will be fixed by itself.
Question B: According to Evolution, a human is not more important than a cockroach
So why should we kill cockroaches and not humans ?
Question C: Is Evolution compatible with the Soul ?
If yes, how did it begin ? Did homo habilis have a soul ?