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Strong indicators that 2014 will be a bad year for Darwinism and atheism

Indicators that 2014 will be a bad year for Darwinism and atheism: Surefire signs that 2014 will be the WORST year in the history of Darwinism and atheism Conservative 06:12, 18 December 2013 (EST)

Robert Skildelsky

User:Conservative]: You used a source on these major Portal pages: Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, John Maynard Keynes and Evolution (The costly return of geopolitics, Jun 27, 2023). His latest, Lord Robert Skidelsky: Pax-Americana is Over, seems to directly contradict your Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future, who declares it has ended. To avoid the confusion you have created on the part of our readers between your ideas and Skildelsky, why don't you properly qualify the source by creating the Robert Skildelsky article? RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 13:23, April 20, 2025 (EDT)

Alfred Russel Wallace - Co-discoverer of natural selection

Hello, I cannot edit this page, but is there a way to add "Alfred Russel Wallace who was the co-discoverer of natural selection, eventually came to see that nature exhibited design and purpose with evolution." citation: Alfred Russel Wallace. 1911. "The World of Life: A Manifestation of Creative Power, Directive Mind and Ultimate Purpose" It summarizes his view of natural history, evolution, natural selection, and their intersection with design. His work shows that nature and design are not mutually exclusive.

I removed the protection from the page. Conservative (talk) 10:00, August 25, 2025 (EDT)

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-==Student Panel's Decision==
-After much debate, the Conservapedia Panel has finished reviewing the Theory of Evolution page. We have determined that the article will remain protected indefinitely, to protect it from inevitable vandalism.  We have decided that the article will not be changed in any major way. However, we agree that the article lacks an adequate, concise explanation of the Theory of Evolution.  Those who wish to assist in improving this article should submit proposed changes to the panel for review.  We also realize the article is in need of revisions to areas containing problems with grammar and style and appreciate your help correcting this. The Panel apologizes for the long delay in this decision. Thank you for your patience.  Please submit any further issues to the panel at [[User talk:CPanel]], and we will do our best to resolve them.
-Sincerely,<br />
-The Conservapedia Student Panel --[[User:CPanel]]
-The Panel regarding a concise definition of the theory of evolution:
-:The article has been improved significantly since we began working on this issue.  Some of the Panel may not be aware of these changes.  They have been contacted, and after they give their opinions, we will post the results here. ~ [[User:CPanel|CPanel]] 18:41, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
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+== Strong indicators that 2014 will be a bad year for  Darwinism and atheism ==
+Indicators that 2014 will be a bad year for Darwinism and atheism: [http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2013/12/surefire-signs-that-2014-will-be-worst.html Surefire signs that 2014 will be the WORST year in the history of Darwinism and atheism] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 06:12, 18 December 2013 (EST)
+==[[Robert Skildelsky]]==
+[[User:Conservative]]]: You used a source on these major Portal pages: [[Charles Darwin]], [[The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection]], [[John Maynard Keynes]] and [[Evolution]] ([https://www.jordantimes.com/opinion/robert-skidelsky/costly-return-geopolitics The costly return of geopolitics], Jun 27, 2023). His latest, [https://youtu.be/ALnyAWz5l8I Lord Robert Skidelsky: Pax-Americana is Over], seems to directly contradict your [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]], who declares it has ended. To avoid the confusion you have created on the part of our readers between your ideas and Skildelsky, why don't you properly qualify the source by creating the [[Robert Skildelsky]] article? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 13:23, April 20, 2025 (EDT)
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+== Alfred Russel Wallace - Co-discoverer of natural selection ==
-== Student Panel ==
-I have been bold and removed the Student Panel Decision. Now, before everybody is rushing to the Rollback and Ban buttons, allow me to explain why the text was utterly outdated and pretty much useless:
-*"the article will remain protected indefinitely" - Yes, just like tons and tons of other articles. Big whoop. (This is a problem by itself, but one I won't tackle right here, right now.)
-*"to protect it from inevitable vandalism" - .................right.
-*"We have decided that the article will not be changed in any major way." - Aaaaand this is the main reason why I removed the decision:
-**The Panel made the decision in April 2007. Right now, the earliest revision of the Evolution article is dated February 9, 2011. Without knowing what the April 2007 version looked like, what counts as a major change?
-**Between the first and last visible revisions alone, the article gained ~10k - not a major change? To put the number into perspective, [[Date of the Exodus]] is smaller than the amount this article has grown.
-**Those who have been around since back then know exactly that the article ''has'' changed in major ways since then.
-*"Those who wish to assist in improving this article should submit proposed changes to the panel for review." - Too many issues to list here. I honestly don't think this applies (or ''should'' apply) anymore.
-I hope there can be some discussion before I'm just bluntly reverted. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 17:44, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
-== We have decided that the article will not be changed in any major way. ==
-Since the Student Panel decreed this in April 2007, [[User:Conservative]] has edited this article over 1000 times ([http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&limit=500&type=patrol&user=Conservative&page=Evolution&month=&year= see here]). The original version as approved by the panel can't be seen here at Conservapedia, as the article was deleted & recreated without edit-history a couple of times afterwards ([http://conservapedia.com/index.php?&title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Conservative&page=Evolution&year=&month=-1 see here]). This is quite surprising, as the article is protected: why should authorized personal edit the article in a way that these edits have to be hidden?
-Fortunately, the version from Mai 1, 2007 can be seen [http://web.archive.org/web/20070514234722/http://www.conservapedia.com/Evolution here] - courtesy to the wayback machine.
-The differences are stunning: Not only is this approved version much shorter (roughly a third of the current article), all the parts linking evolution with Atheism, liberalism, etc., are missing!
-These parts seem to change the article ''in a major way''. And they are definitely not helpful when formulating ''an adequate, concise explanation of the Theory of Evolution.''
-So it seems that the Student Panel should review this article again!
-[[User:RonLar|RonLar]] 15:18, 5 August 2011 (EDT)
-:::The article still reflects that macroevolution is pseudoscience so no real sweeping changes were made - just enhancements. Given that Andy's first homeschooler group liked my work, we also know that all I have to do is make a call to Andy explaining things and Andy and his Christian homeschoolers will endorse my efforts. In short, this is an evolutionist Pickett's charge. I have talked to Bible believing Christians and they like this article. I hope this clears things up for the evolutionists and atheists. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:21, 5 August 2011 (EDT)
-::Thank you. Then let's not do anymore reversions of these polite editors comments on this discussion page, please. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:23, 5 August 2011 (EDT)
-:::Conservative, the disclaimer indicates that the ''student panel'' decides about the editing of this article, not Aschlafly. You position seems to be that you follow their ''wishes'' while ignoring what they are ''saying''.
+Hello, I cannot edit this page, but is there a way to add "Alfred Russel Wallace who was the co-discoverer of natural selection, eventually came to see that nature exhibited design and purpose with evolution." citation: Alfred Russel Wallace. 1911. "The World of Life: A Manifestation of Creative Power, Directive Mind and Ultimate Purpose" It summarizes his view of natural history, evolution, natural selection, and their intersection with design. His work shows that nature and design are not mutually exclusive.
-:::We other don't have this luxury: we have to follow what is written. For the sake of clarity something has to be changed:
+:I removed the protection from the page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:00, August 25, 2025 (EDT)
-:::*either your way of editing
-:::*or the disclaimer.
-:::[[User:RonLar|RonLar]] 16:58, 5 August 2011 (EDT)