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Several solutions have been proposed by creationists to explain how a young universe may be reconciled with these observations.
 
Several solutions have been proposed by creationists to explain how a young universe may be reconciled with these observations.
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They also point out that there is a logical fallacy in the argument, as the observation that many stars are millions of light years away is one of ''distance'', not ''time''.  No matter how reasonable, it is a ''deduction'', not an '''observation'', that the starlight from stars millions of light years away would have required millions of years to reach Earth.
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They also point out that there is a logical fallacy in the argument, as the observation that many stars are millions of light years away is one of ''distance'', not ''time''.  No matter how reasonable, it is a ''deduction'', not an ''observation'', that the starlight from stars millions of light years away would have required millions of years to reach Earth.
    
=== Light created in transit ===
 
=== Light created in transit ===
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=== Decrease in the speed of light ===
 
=== Decrease in the speed of light ===
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[[Image:Barry_setterfield.jpg‎|right|thumb|150px|[[Barry Setterfield]]]]
 
Creationist [[Barry Setterfield]] has proposed that the speed of light was faster in the past. <ref>Norman and Setterfield, 1986</ref>
 
Creationist [[Barry Setterfield]] has proposed that the speed of light was faster in the past. <ref>Norman and Setterfield, 1986</ref>
 
This idea initially found wide acceptance by creationists, but is now widely rejected, although some still hold to the idea.
 
This idea initially found wide acceptance by creationists, but is now widely rejected, although some still hold to the idea.
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=== Humphreys' model ===
 
=== Humphreys' model ===
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In 1994 Dr. [[Russell Humphreys]] proposed a new cosmology<ref>Batten et. al., 2007, p.90, Humphreys, 1994</ref> that includes a bounded universe with a centre and an edge, that God had created 6,000 years ago as a much smaller body than today, then stretched it out, making it much larger.
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In 1994 Dr. [[Russell Humphreys]] proposed a new cosmology<ref>Batten et. al., 2007, p.90, Humphreys, 1994</ref> that includes a bounded universe with a center and an edge, that God had created 6,000 years ago as a much smaller body than today, then stretched it out, making it much larger.
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In Humphreys' model, because the universe has a centre and an edge (unlike the unbounded model of the Big Bang universe), the centre of the universe is also the centre of a [[gravity well]], meaning that gravity is stronger at the centre of the universe than at the edge.
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In Humphreys' model, because the universe has a center and an edge (unlike the unbounded model of the Big Bang universe), the center of the universe is also the center of a [[gravity well]], meaning that gravity is stronger at the center of the universe than at the edge.
    
As gravity can affect the rate at which time passes, he calculated that while the six days of [[Creation Week|creation week]] were passing on Earth, billions of years' of time was passing at the edge of the universe.
 
As gravity can affect the rate at which time passes, he calculated that while the six days of [[Creation Week|creation week]] were passing on Earth, billions of years' of time was passing at the edge of the universe.
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The Big Bang model proposes that the temperature of the [[Cosmic Microwave Background]] (CMB) would have varied considerably from place to place early in the universe, yet because the speed at which this radiation can disperse from hotter to colder parts of the universe is limited by the speed of light, there has not been enough time for the radiation to even out, yet observations today show it to be extremely uniform.<ref>Lisle, 2003</ref>
 
The Big Bang model proposes that the temperature of the [[Cosmic Microwave Background]] (CMB) would have varied considerably from place to place early in the universe, yet because the speed at which this radiation can disperse from hotter to colder parts of the universe is limited by the speed of light, there has not been enough time for the radiation to even out, yet observations today show it to be extremely uniform.<ref>Lisle, 2003</ref>
 
{{QuoteBox|The problem is this: even assuming the big bang timescale, there has not been enough time for light to travel between widely separated regions of space. So, how can the different regions of the current CMB have such precisely uniform temperatures if they have never communicated with each other? This is a light-travel–time problem.<ref>Lisle, 2003</ref>}}
 
{{QuoteBox|The problem is this: even assuming the big bang timescale, there has not been enough time for light to travel between widely separated regions of space. So, how can the different regions of the current CMB have such precisely uniform temperatures if they have never communicated with each other? This is a light-travel–time problem.<ref>Lisle, 2003</ref>}}
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== Young Earth Creationist Views Regarding Starlight ==
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[[Image:Barry_setterfield.jpg‎|right|thumb|175px|[[Barry Setterfield]]]]
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In regards to the question of how one can see [[star|starlight]] from millions of light years away, [[Young Earth Creationism|young earth creation]] [[scientist]]s commonly mention several things.
      
== Bibliography ==
 
== Bibliography ==
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* Batten, Don, Catchpoole, David, Sarfati, Jonathan, Wieland, Carl, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter5.pdf How can we see distant stars in a young universe?], chapter 5 of The Creation Answers Book, 2007.
 
* Batten, Don, Catchpoole, David, Sarfati, Jonathan, Wieland, Carl, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/images/pdfs/cabook/chapter5.pdf How can we see distant stars in a young universe?], chapter 5 of The Creation Answers Book, 2007.
 
* Hartnett, John C., A new cosmology: solution to the starlight travel time problem, ''Journal of Creation'' 17(2):98–102, August 2003.  [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1616/ HTML] [http://www.creationontheweb.com/images/pdfs/tj/j17_2/j17_2_98-102.pdf PDF]
 
* Hartnett, John C., A new cosmology: solution to the starlight travel time problem, ''Journal of Creation'' 17(2):98–102, August 2003.  [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1616/ HTML] [http://www.creationontheweb.com/images/pdfs/tj/j17_2/j17_2_98-102.pdf PDF]
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* Humphreys, D. Russell, Startlight and Time, Master Books, 1994, ISBN 0-89051-202-7.
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* Humphreys, D. Russell, Starlight and Time, Master Books, 1994, ISBN 0-89051-202-7.
 
* Lisle, Jason, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/167/ Light-travel time: a problem for the big bang], ''Creation'' 25(4):48–49, September 2003.
 
* Lisle, Jason, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/167/ Light-travel time: a problem for the big bang], ''Creation'' 25(4):48–49, September 2003.
 
* Norman, T.G. and Setterfield, B., ''The Atomic Constants, Light and Time'', SRI International Invited Research Report, Menlo Park, 1986.
 
* Norman, T.G. and Setterfield, B., ''The Atomic Constants, Light and Time'', SRI International Invited Research Report, Menlo Park, 1986.
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