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Thanks for pointing me to a creation website trying to prove a scientific theory to be wrong.  You quoting it proves that even you believe that this scientific position is falsifiable. Which cannot be said, by your admission, about your interpretation of the scripture. I did ask you to come up with a test, because you ask this from people who disagree with you. If you criticize theories about the past for not being testable, you better make sure that you own theories are testable. [[User:Order|Order]] 12:11, 21 December 2007 (EST)
 
Thanks for pointing me to a creation website trying to prove a scientific theory to be wrong.  You quoting it proves that even you believe that this scientific position is falsifiable. Which cannot be said, by your admission, about your interpretation of the scripture. I did ask you to come up with a test, because you ask this from people who disagree with you. If you criticize theories about the past for not being testable, you better make sure that you own theories are testable. [[User:Order|Order]] 12:11, 21 December 2007 (EST)
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: I never claimed that Spong being wrong would make me right.  But him being wrong means that your argument that you could use him to counter my points fails.
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: The Study Group didn't show what you claim it to show.  It did show that (a) a ''few'' early people argued for non-literal days, and (b) more do in recent times.  On the whole, however, what I said is true (emphasis added): "For ''most'' of the last 2000 years the church (the apologists) argued ''essentially'' what I've been arguing."
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: Some specific details of the Big Bang idea are falsifiable even though the overall concept is not.  So there's no inconsistency there.
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: I don't criticise theories about the past for not being testable.  I criticise ''the idea'' that they ''are'' testable when they are not.
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: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:01, 29 December 2007 (EST)
    
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