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Debate:If the universe is young and it takes light millions of years to reach us from far off stars, how can we see them? (view source)
Revision as of 14:55, August 25, 2011
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:Wise words [[User:Cracker|Cracker]], wise words indeed. --[[User:Rob Pommer| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|TALK]]</sub> 19:33, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
:Wise words [[User:Cracker|Cracker]], wise words indeed. --[[User:Rob Pommer| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|TALK]]</sub> 19:33, 28 March 2007 (EDT)
The problem goes far beyond just the light from the stars reaching earth. How did the stars and galaxies arrive at all in their current positions? According to Einstein there is not sufficient energy in the entire universe to move a single atom with mass faster than the speed of light, and yet we have the most massive objects in the universe distributed at distances that could never have been achieved in 13.5 Billion years following a Big Bang theory. It would have taken multi-trillions of years to achieve it in normal <c motion. This "horizon" problem baffles the atheistic scientific community just as well as starlight reaching earth baffles Young-Earth theorists. There is no good scientific explanation for either event. Moffat (1992) proposed an inflation theory that in the early moments of the universe, both motion and the speed of light were immensely faster than what we observe today. Unfortunately, even if true, there's no good reason for the inflation to have suddenly ceased.
To some people, this means that science has just not found a good explanation. To others, it just means that when God said "Let there be light," there was light.
If you assume that God created the universe, including the very essence of light itself, and the speed thereof, why would one assume that God is constrained by His own creation? If He exists (and I conclude that there is no other logical reason for existence and conscious thought), then He certainly transcends the laws of a universe that He created.
Can you imagine the internal monologue of God after creating the stars? "Oh, many, I just spent all that time creating the stars and I didn't think about the fact that it would take ten million years for the light to reach earth! Wow, that wasn't very smart of Me. I guess I'll need to wait around for ten million years before I create the Earth, so that the starlight can reach it. Man, I should have thought of this earlier! Well, it's too late now, because in 1901 Einstein is going to write a mathematical formula that constrains me at the time of creation. I hate waiting, but what's to be done?" And then God twiddles his thumbs for ten million years and finally creates the Earth just in time for starlight to appear.
Seriously? Either God created everything, including light and its method of propagation, and its speed, and the existing starlight, or He didn't. The Big Bang can't explain itself, why it went bang, what it was before it went bang, and how the constellations and galaxies were formed and distributed within the time frame scientists have given us for the age of the universe.
The starlight and star distribution problem isn't a problem for Creationists. It's a problem for science, that can't explain itself. --[[User:swbuza|swbuza]] 10:57 25 Aug 2011 (EDT)
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