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::What about dropping the adjective completely? Surely there are Christian geologists who use the dates, even if they didn't invent them. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 11:09, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
::What about dropping the adjective completely? Surely there are Christian geologists who use the dates, even if they didn't invent them. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 11:09, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
:::Even though there are Christian geologists who use the dates (contradicting the book they profess to believe), the point is that the dates are based on a secular ideology rather than being simple, observable, facts. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:15, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
:::Even though there are Christian geologists who use the dates (contradicting the book they profess to believe), the point is that the dates are based on a secular ideology rather than being simple, observable, facts. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:15, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
::::Do you accept that there can be people who accept Jesus Christ as Lord without those people also rejecting every scientific theory that contradicts [[young Earth creation]]? Many of these models help to understand how God's creation works, whether it was actually created yesterday, 6000 Y.A. or millions of years ago. There's apparently a Creation Wiki for people who can't see past that. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 18:50, 31 May 2007 (EDT)